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post #1 of 31 Old 11-10-2008, 05:56 AM Thread Starter
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Supposed training advice

What is some absolutely crazy training advice someone has given you? I have had some of the silliest and potentially harmful advice given to me (of course, I ignored it). I'm just wondering what sorts of cruel/dangerous/plain silly things you've been advised in the name or training.

When I used to have trouble catching my mare, one trainer told me about a stallion they couldn't catch. They 'solved' this problem by depriving him of food and water until he was forced to approach them. Maybe its just me, but I cannot agree with any so called training that involves depriving a horse of the necessities of life. To me, that's just cruel.

But lets hear some of your experiences...

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post #2 of 31 Old 11-10-2008, 10:59 AM
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I have a rearer and one of the things I was told to try was to tie baling twine from his tail to his halter...

When he reared he pulled a chunk of tail out! and it did nothing to stop the rear!

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The person I bought my horse from had him from the age of six months until he was almost 5yrs. On the first day he brought the horse home, the horse would not approach any person. When it came time to feed, Fella would not come in to be handled. The man waited by the food for a while to give him a chance....Fella didn't want anything to do with him, so he took the food away and left. He did that for four days before Fella finally got so hungry he had to approach him. Got the man what he wanted in a short time.....BUT!
Now I have a horse that is UBER-protective over his food! Can't give him treats on a regular basis as well. Poor guy!!!
I definitely disagree with withholding necessities!
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post #4 of 31 Old 11-10-2008, 04:47 PM Thread Starter
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Depriving an animal of food may work, but as you said, it can lead to other problems such as making the horse really protective of his food. There are other ways to get a horse to come to you - I have retrained several hard-to-catch horses. And it had nothing to do with food at all. I think that depriving an animal of necessities of life is just an excuse for a lack on knowledge in training horses.

farmpony - i wonder why they recommended tying halter to tail? It sounds rather odd and i hadn't heard of it before for preventing rearing... but obviously it didn't work!

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post #5 of 31 Old 11-17-2008, 06:40 AM
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LONG STORY - But disaster situation!

I was visiting a friend of a friends farm a while back, and it was a complete disaster. They owned a mare named Po and she had been sitting in her paddock for almost 2 years untouched. She was covered in dandruf and quite skinny, being out in the cold with no rug or shelter or substantial feed (hay).
I was at the farm to check her out as I will be taking her soon to fix her up. The horse next door (long story, didn't belong to the people that lived there but belonged to the womans grandfather, or something, broke his back and the grandfather refused to have it put down so he spent $thousands in treatment) broke into Po's paddock a few months back and became obsessive over her.
This horse was extremely protective and spooky. In order to catch Po the Mum of the family who owned her ran in with a whip waving it around and absolutely making this spooky horse go balistic, trying to chase it away.
I crawled under the fence and caught Po, while the woman was waving the crop around creating a very stressful situation. To make matters worse the only way to get Po out of the paddock was to go UNDER the fence - which was a bit of string. Before I knew it I was leading her under a string fence, thinking in the back of my head "this is so dangerous" while the Dad and kids held it up to allow enough room for her to go through. We took Po up to the house and the spooky horse was going balistic - abo****ely nuts. It galloped down into the valley and slipped in the mud onto its back. It was awful to see, and I was shocked to see everyone laughing.
The horse struggled to get back up in desperation to get back to its mate.

It was awful, I felt so sorry for these horses. I wish I could take both back home with me but I can only take Po - I'm not sure how the other horse will react to that, I hope he forgets though.

Anyway, bad training-ish experience!
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post #6 of 31 Old 11-17-2008, 08:40 AM
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My favorite stupid advice is the rearing horse that some "horseman" suggested tying water ballons to his bridle, then when the horse would rear the rider should smack the water ballons with a heavy stick to break the ballons. Really, I don't make that up.

I've heard some other equally crazy things but since I read them on a forum, I won't touch them here. The interns and clients love hearing about them on the way to rides.

I enjoyed some of these stories!
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Someone once told me totake a glass bottle and fill it with water if I ever rodea rearing horse.. when the horse went up, break the bottle over its head... Um... no thanks...

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post #8 of 31 Old 01-04-2009, 09:08 PM
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I've heard the bottle with warm water, and breaking over a rearing horses head. Its supposed to make the horse think it's hit its head and is bleeding, so it won't do it again.

No thanks!

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post #9 of 31 Old 01-04-2009, 09:53 PM
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My trainer whacks the horse in the head if they dont' go into the trailer. A dangourus thing that an old trainer was almost forcing me to do was tack up in the stall! That is the way to get killed people. I have heard about a girl who was killed becaiuse her horse flipped out in the stall while she was tacking him up

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post #10 of 31 Old 01-05-2009, 01:45 AM
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I know a guy who can't catch horses to save his life. If the stories that I've heard about him are true, I can see why. I've heard that he will literally go out into their pens and spend 30+ minutes chasing them, then when he gets tired, he'll just sit in the middle and throw rocks at them until they get tired of running and he can catch them. These are horses that will literally walk right up to a total stranger to be petted, but they all run from this guy.
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