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    02-23-2012, 02:04 AM
surcingle size

I'm ground driving my colt and am thinking about getting a surcingle to keep the lines in place (my saddle isn't going to work because I don't currently have a cinch small enough for him to hold it on and my endurance stirrups have cages on them so I can't run the lines through them). I'm out of town at the moment and would like to go ahead and order one so it's there when I get home, but I'm not sure what size generally works and have never used one before. He's a VERY stocky quarter horse, but is 21 months old and only 13.1 hands at the moment. He's probably more of a typical yearling's size right now compared to the other 2 year olds I've seen. What surcingle size generally fits this age/size of horse? And, how do I measure if I don't have the change to get one before I get home?
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    02-23-2012, 02:23 AM
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I have a regular horse sized surcingle. If I need it smaller than it will adjust, I use two blanket pins (like huge safety pins) and take a tuck in the webbing. I prefer the leather top, webbing bottom model for smaller horses. I also have a heavier leather model for the bigger horses.
    02-23-2012, 02:25 AM
Originally Posted by Allison Finch    
I have a regular horse sized surcingle. If I need it smaller than it will adjust, I use two blanket pins (like huge safety pins) and take a tuck in the webbing. I prefer the leather top, webbing bottom model for smaller horses. I also have a heavier leather model for the bigger horses.
Do you uusually need to tuck it for your younger horses? And how much can you reasonably tuck it to get it smaller?
    02-23-2012, 02:29 AM
I also have a neoprene surcingle for sale. I think I got pictures in my sale album. It fit my 14.1 arab that was rather round. You can email me if interested
    02-23-2012, 02:42 AM
I was thinking of getting something pony sized and then, if I need it bigger, throwing on my full-size girth that I currently use for riding my Arabian but is too big, but I"m not sure if that would even work. Pinning the horse size seems like it might be a good idea, though - I just would need to make sure I get the right material to do so.
    02-23-2012, 03:12 AM
I decided to go with this surcingle because it seems like I could pin the girth really easily if I need to. Plus, the rings I'm planning on using are more rigid, which I think I'll prefer to floppy rings. Thanks for the advice, especially for pinning horse sized girths to make them smaller!

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    02-23-2012, 08:44 AM
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I have two surcingles and never use either of them. I usually use a stock saddle but NEVER run the reins through the stirrups -- NEVER.

Are your hands ever going to be pulling on the reins from that low? I think not.

I tie or snap big rings (preferable old 3 inch cinch rings), to the back girth rigging ring or slot. This does 2 things:

1) It makes the rein use more exactly 'feel' like your hands are going to feel to the horse when you ride it.

2) It supports and encourages the horse to bend through his neck, shoulders and ribs. With the leverage coming from a place so much further back, the horse learns to bend its entire body much better rather than just turn his head and bend in the neck only.

Ground driving in this way just works 100 X better. You don't need a back girth on the saddle. You just need a slot or ring that is made for one.

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