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    09-07-2011, 06:17 PM
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Foal
Tacking up problems, advice needed!

I bought my horse in June. He was just green broke and turned 5 in April. He has come a long way with his training, but lately I've noticed some attitude problems. Whenever I put a saddle pad/ saddle on back he pins his ears back and shales his head up and down. With the girth he "acts" like bees going to bite me( never has). He also does not want to take the bit lately. It's weird though, because once I'm in the ring adjusting my girth, he's a happy carefree horse. What do I do?
     
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    09-07-2011, 07:27 PM
  #2
Green Broke
It could be a number of things. The first thing I look at if I come across a problem is "what am I doing?"
Saddle fit, too tight of a girth/cinch, dirty tack, bit hitting teeth going in or coming out, sliding headstall over the ears instead of putting ears forward into the headstall, pushing too hard while training, muscle soreness-it's a long list & can be more than one thing at a time.
I would try to carefully analyze every step of my routine & listen to what my horse tells me. Very seldom does a horse get naughty for no reason.
Sorry I don't have a clear cut answer for you.
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    09-07-2011, 07:50 PM
  #3
Foal
My trainer said he might just not feel like working. Because whenever he sees me walking up with the saddle pad he throws a fit! The chiropractor comes in about 2 months, so I'll make sure he sees him. But in the meantime. Would a liniment help?
     
    09-07-2011, 08:08 PM
  #4
Super Moderator
If the saddle fit is off, it can take some time before a real soreness builds up to the point where he is soured about being tacked up. Can also be ulcers, but not likely. Also, do up the cinch slowly, but you probably already do that.

I would really take a look at the saddle fit. You are welcome to put pictures on here, with saddle on , no pad, at various angles. We can only make educated guesses, though; can't feel for the fit.
     
    09-07-2011, 08:12 PM
  #5
Foal
Ok, I'll have my trainer look at the saddle fit. Question though: would I have to buy a whole new saddle. Or can you alter a saddle?
     
    09-07-2011, 08:25 PM
  #6
Weanling
You'd have to buy a new saddle. I've never heard of altering a saddle, and if it's possible I imagine it'd be cheaper just to buy one.

If he's not in pain, he's being a brat. I've heard of three different ways to help a horse that is cinchy. You may want to give him a treat while you put the saddle on. For some reason, this solves some horses problem because they start seeing saddling as a good thing. Of course this may encourage bad behavior or make him nippy. Another tactic I've heard is tacking them up in an area where you can lunge them if they start acting up. I personally just smack them when they start acting stupid, but depending on the horse the other two methods may work better.

What kind of girth do you use? Shannon lost a lot of her cinchiness when I started using a more comfortable girth.
     
    09-07-2011, 08:28 PM
  #7
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by JustDoIt    
Ok, I'll have my trainer look at the saddle fit. Question though: would I have to buy a whole new saddle. Or can you alter a saddle?
Depending on the saddle.

Some parts (gullet, etc..) of some saddles can be changed. Although some saddles are not changeable at all.
     
    09-07-2011, 08:59 PM
  #8
Foal
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Originally Posted by horseloverd2    
You'd have to buy a new saddle. I've never heard of altering a saddle, and if it's possible I imagine it'd be cheaper just to buy one.

If he's not in pain, he's being a brat. I've heard of three different ways to help a horse that is cinchy. You may want to give him a treat while you put the saddle on. For some reason, this solves some horses problem because they start seeing saddling as a good thing. Of course this may encourage bad behavior or make him nippy. Another tactic I've heard is tacking them up in an area where you can lunge them if they start acting up. I personally just smack them when they start acting stupid, but depending on the horse the other two methods may work better.

What kind of girth do you use? Shannon lost a lot of her cinchiness when I started using a more comfortable girth.

I use the soft touch girth for schooling. Honsetly, I think he's just being a brat. And he's been more nippy lately, so I don't think treats would be a good idea:/
     
    09-07-2011, 09:15 PM
  #9
Trained
I agree with Natisha on checking how you are tacking up. If he is fine under saddle, it is probably not tack fit, but it's always a good idea to check it.
     
    09-09-2011, 01:54 AM
  #10
Yearling
I disagree with the idea of simply 'treating' a horse. Treating, no matter the setting, often encourages a horse to invade space, and eventually nip in search of treats. It leads to more harm than it does good.

I work with a Mexican Mustang who was abused by his first owner, and was spoiled by a bunch of boys. When it came to the cinch, he would always act like he was going to nip, or threaten to. He even caught a few people on the breast before and left nasty bruises.

Part of the reason he nipped was due to the fact that he had a scar on his side where a cinch would have been put, due to the abuse. But it's also because he simply did not want to work. When he threatened to nip, or even attempted to, he'd get reprimanded by a smack and a hard lunge to demonstrate dominance and to keep him from acting like the big boss that he thought he was.

Now that he's realized he won't get away with it, he sits fine while being cinched up.
     

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