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post #1 of 7 Old 04-27-2012, 10:59 AM Thread Starter
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take the tie down off?

years ago a girl used to ride my mft with a tie down i had no clue why,
I havent ever done it so one day i decided to and it seemed like my horse was working against it witch in return just made my ride harder... this horse doesnt listen to that girl any more. although he listens to me just fine.

So that comes to my question of my barrel horse splash. I ride him with a very very loose tie down on, Hes an arab so his head is high but the past year I have steped back took pride off my wall of knowlege and actualy started learning a lot more. Taking him and re training him to be a horse that wants to please me. I used to think it was cool to ride a unbroke horse just because no one else could... stupid I know but I was a kid, Thinking about that horse (mtf) and all the retraining done to my anglo arabion, and working him yesterday around barrels he wouldnt bend like normal. once again i felt like he was working against the tie down to please me.

I viewed the videos there not bad, good works for a windy day but i still feel hes working against that tie.

I have came to realize people around here dont know a dime about horses,

they told me bell boots all four... no only the fronts..

high head on a horse? tie down no.. training.

break a horse? no train him

training a horse COWBOY him!!!! heck no.

( id uplode them but apparently there the wrong format for my computer? If anyone had this problem for windows 7 please let me know how to fix it i have many questions that I dont feel can be answered without video.)
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post #2 of 7 Old 04-27-2012, 11:10 AM
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You are becoming a good horseman. You got through the first part, which is realizing our shortcomings and lack of "knowing it all" to wanting learn more and different ways. Believe me, it only gets better from here on, you gain way more tools in your "horsemanship" toolbox. As for the tie down, the only time I found it beneficial is for a horse that likes to brace on something when running barrels, games, etc. Rest of the time, I found it quite useless & almost a hinderance to applying correct aids (eg-hand, seat, legs, weight). Since you keep it very loose anyways, dispense with it, doesn't sound like you need it anyways.
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post #3 of 7 Old 04-27-2012, 11:34 AM
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I agree, try a while without. I only like tie downs on horses who are "nose breakers" meaning they throw their head up so bad they bust your nose...and then enough to keep the horse from busting your nose but not limiting movement. IF this isn't a worry, why have it?

I have windows 7. There is a really great program out there called "Total Video Converter." I use it for everything and it comes with "codecs" to help your computer see more file types as well. You can convert just about anything into something "windows" friendly such as mpg, avi, etc.
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He used to be a nose. Breaker lol literally
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post #5 of 7 Old 04-27-2012, 12:56 PM
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Take the Tie Down off....I am not a fan of them at all. They only teach a horse how to brace against it and you. In which when they are bracing are they soft, supple, bending? No they are stiff and leaning which leads to dropping shoulders because they are bracing and getting on their front end more then their hind end.

So the reason he feels like he is fighting it is because he is bracing against it so is hollowing and stiffening on you. I always evaluate why a horse is doing what they are doing, the farthest I go is to put a German Martinagale on until I get them working the way I want then take them off of that to where they don't have anything on. I could care less where a horses head is as long as it isn't interfering with out runs and are listening and working the way I wan them to.

So what is he doing besides having a high head set that requires a tie-down? What kind of bit do you use...does he like it and respond well to it? How are your hands? Are they lifting or pulling him around the turn? Are you heavy handed? A LOT plays into why a horse does what it does so I would stop and evaluate everything your doing and what your tack is while taking the tie-down off.

Conformation is how far the horse CAN go,
Mind is how far the horse WILL go,
Training is how far it DOES go.
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Nope he's light on the reins, I don't have to pull just lay it over ill take a picture of the bit but I'm thinking about taking him all the way backdown to a snaffle after reading on bits,
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post #7 of 7 Old 04-27-2012, 09:52 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you for all your reply's i have a pro trainer (she mainly does cattle horses but has trained 3 very successful barrel horses and many horses that made great rides for fun) friend who is giving me tips about him and will tell me more once i get these silly videos up! we dont look as bad as i thought we did the other day so i guess thats a plus!

i have learned the hard way not to listen to just anyone. I know this woman is good. better then good but it means the world to me to have people tell me what she does for a security blanket! and you cant ever ask too many questions i want horses to be my work one day but im not rushing into anything! just wanted to say thank you for your time!

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