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post #21 of 29 Old 09-24-2008, 10:10 PM Thread Starter
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jazzyrider: ok, I will try the noseband.

FehrGroundRanch: I don't know who trained Koda, if he had any at all.For example: I have been lunging him and he will go but he doesn't know how to stop, its either wtc, I also have a hard time getting him to go...I did have someone come out and he said Koda would adventurely learn to hold it the right way, but for now he was alright...Maybe I need a second opinion

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post #22 of 29 Old 09-25-2008, 08:53 PM
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I used to have an appy who put his tongue over the bit, and because of it he would get cuts in his mouth/tongue and become very difficult to steer etc. He was abused previously, so I think it may have been a stress thing. Here in Australia you can buy a rubber peice that fits onto your bit, it is about the size and shaope of a human tongue and it liesflat up the horses tongue, much like the tongue control bit, but a lot cheaper! I used this until he calmed and stopped attemping. I then moved onto a kimberwick with a medium port, which still gave him that little bit more trouble getting his tongue over, then finally I moved on to a rubber mullen mouth snaffle with a cavesson noseband. By the end he was fine in the snaffle and noseband.

Good idea to stop riding until you find a solution/training aid, as it does bad things to their mouth and tongue. With spot (original name for an appy!) it was not a training thing, or a disobedience thing, I think it was simply a ngeative reaction to having a bit in his mouth. Progressing through the bits, lessening the tongue control as he got used to it, was really the best way to go.
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post #23 of 29 Old 07-09-2009, 11:01 AM
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my mates horse how im riding does the same thing. when her tongue goes over the bit she will not put it back, then she runs of with you, she had a spin plate made. search it up and have a look they are very exspensive, so be sure that theres no other way, hope this helps.
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post #24 of 29 Old 07-09-2009, 05:47 PM
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I didn't read everything said, so excuse me if I am simply restating something that has all ready been said.

Did you say that your horse is a TB?

My TB had a huge issue with getting his tounge over the bit all the time. This seems to be a common TB thing. You might want to look into a flash bridle if your horse's teeth check out and aren't an issue. I now ride Rocket in a flash bridle so he can't do that and he is much more responsive.
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post #25 of 29 Old 07-09-2009, 05:54 PM Thread Starter
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no my horse isnt a TB, he is a QH Paint

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post #26 of 29 Old 07-09-2009, 08:40 PM
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Perhaps putting a cavesson on him would help- that way he can't open his mouth enough to get his tongue over the bit.

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post #27 of 29 Old 07-09-2009, 11:24 PM Thread Starter
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yeah thats what we been doing and he's getting better

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post #28 of 29 Old 12-25-2009, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Vidaloco View Post
I use an Imus comfort bit, which has a lot of relief, curb bit. When I first started using it I had to put it higher in Vidas mouth than I normally would because she was getting her tongue over it. If I remember right I had 3 wrinkles in her mouth when I normally just have the bit sitting in the corners with little to no wrinkles.
This is the one she can get her tongue over

This is one she can't

You might want to go to one with less tongue relief or tighten your headstall.
I just kept checking Vida during a ride. if she was still getting her tongue over I'd go up another hole on the headstall. I felt terrible to keep tightening it up but after she got used to it and stopped playing, I could move it down to just in the corners, no wrinkles.
I have an Imus bit for my Paso Fino lol
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post #29 of 29 Old 12-25-2009, 11:14 PM
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Edit -- Ugh, just saw the date... why can't we delete our posts?

Please don't put a noseband on your horse just to clamp his jaws shut. I'm all for trying a noseband if your bit and bridle fit perfectly, but please, just remember that you should be able to fit TWO fingers in between your horse's jaw and the noseband. You can also try adding a flash noseband, it's actually meant to prevent horses from getting the bit under their tongue. I would also recommend playing with bits eventually anyway. Some horses work better in some bits than others, there is no such thing as a perfect bit for every horse.

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Two fingers --

Flash noseband --

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