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    01-25-2011, 10:47 PM
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Green Broke
Taking weanling for walks w/stud chain?

I guess the question is, should I be using a stud chain on my weanling?

Well, I guess he's technically not a weanling yet, because he's not weaned. But I have a 6 month old colt that I have been ponying out on another horse away from his mom, and riding mom away from him. So he is used to being separated.

What I am wondering is, is it considered okay and proper to pony him and take him for walks with a stud chain under his jaw?

I started using one when he would get all bouncy and sometimes pull back when being ponied. It made a world of difference. Now if I take him for walks down the road, I use it too. He is much more respectful in it, and doesn't try to pull away or act up like he used to without it.

But at the same time, I feel kind of like he shouldn't NEED a stud chain. What do you think? Okay to use while he is still learning manners and going for walks with me, or are we going down the wrong path?

I did try a rope halter a couple of times, and he has more respect for the chain. The rope halter didn't seem all that different from the nylon halter I normally use with him.

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    01-26-2011, 12:11 AM
  #2
Trained
Im not quiet sure, but if I had a weanling, I would try it in a rope halter even though you said that the chain was more effective. I think that a foal should be taught to lead in a soft webbing or rope halter as If it was taught in a chain, they are just being taught that either they walk next to you or get hurt if they pull away. I think that they need to be let have a little freedom (But not pull away and rear ect) As they are being taught because when you really think about it, it is their insticnt to run and take flight.
I think that they need to know you are the boss without an artificial aid. Try reasoning with him and showing who is boss instead of him having to listen to the pressure of the chain.
     
    01-26-2011, 04:40 AM
  #3
Trained
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What I am wondering is, is it considered okay and proper to pony him and take him for walks with a stud chain under his jaw?
Personally, I would try to go without. But I don't see a problem with leading in one.

However I wouldn't pony in one. Too many things can go wrong and end in lots of pain - He spooks, your ridden horse spooks, he trips and can't keep up for a step...
     
    01-26-2011, 06:00 AM
  #4
Green Broke
Not a good idea at all! Are you talking ponying the 6mnth old or the weanling?
Either way, a baby has fragile bone structure around the head and neck and to use a chain because the baby is acting up, not good! A rope halter is much safer and your baby needs to be consistent with leading on the ground before attempting to pony.

Are you planning on gelding him? This will help calm him. You have to realize a few things. First: he's a baby with a very short attention span and his wiggles or bouncing and pulling away are very normal. He's letting you know he's uncomfortable and scared. He may be feeling frisky and if he pulls back hard enough he can get severely hurt.

He should learn pressure and release. Make sure you are using the correct size rope halter. Make sure the knots on the nose of the halter are properly placed. In my opinion, I wouldn't pony to much but that's me. Walking with him is wonderful.

Last time just from my opinion, no chain! I think its unnecessary and a accident waiting to happen.
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    01-26-2011, 06:41 AM
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Weanling
He's a 6 month old foal.. I doubt he needs a chain, more than likely he needs to be taught proper pressure/release in a normal webbing or rope halter.
     
    01-26-2011, 06:43 AM
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Trained
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Originally Posted by AztecBaby    
He's a 6 month old foal.. I doubt he needs a chain, more than likely he needs to be taught proper pressure/release in a normal webbing or rope halter.
^^What I was trying to say but I worded it wrong.
     
    01-26-2011, 11:16 AM
  #7
Yearling
We raised a colt out of my mare and we started him in a flat nylon halter, but he began to act studly. So we did start to use a nose chain on him as a weanling when we were coming and going from pastue to barn and in reverse order. A weanling can hurt us as badly as an adult horse. I did pony him from his Mother, but only in the flat halter w/o the nose chain. Never tie a horse of any age with a nose chain on them. We asked the owner of the sire, who was full blood TB, of this colt if using a nose chain was an okay thing to do. His response was that it was possitively okay and sometimes necessary. Once the colt learned to stop his unacceptable behavior we never needed the nose chain again. We did eventually geld the colt and kept him as a long 2 year old. We had him going under saddle and I rode him frequently before selling him.
     
    01-26-2011, 11:28 AM
  #8
Foal
I would definitely not be working a 6 month old with a chain. It can be dangerous for him at such a young age and starting with it now may mean he has to have it the rest of his life and I don't think you want that. I would work with a normal rope halter at first it will not do the same thing a chain does it is not meant to, but the baby needs to learn how to give to light pressure of a simple halter not a stud chain. Stud chains are called that for a reason, they are not foal chains. I also agree that he should be very good at being led on the ground before you ever try ponying him too many things can go wrong if he isn't ready.
     
    01-26-2011, 12:15 PM
  #9
Green Broke
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I am talking about one colt. He is 6 months old and not yet weaned, but he is used to going places without his momma for a few hours at a time.

Unfortunately we have respect issues in general. He thinks it's fun to try to nip at me when I lead him or pony him. He turned and tried to kick me the other day and I laid him down and sat on him for 25 minutes. He is more respectful now, but I am afraid we are heading down the wrong path. He does everything I want him to, but he has an attitude doing it.

He was gelded in mid December.

After all the feedback, I think I will try the rope halter again. I don't want to be "mean" to him. I love him dearly. But I need to get his respect somehow.

I don't have a round pen. A neighbor has one I can use, but it is too icy to use it now. I pony him out so he can stretch his legs and run. He likes to go out on rides w/me and my gelding. I have to pony him for about a mile, and when we get to the forest, I cut him loose to run and play.

At home, he lives in a pen, not a stall, but still, he doesn't have room to really run around like he should.
     
    01-26-2011, 12:34 PM
  #10
Green Broke
Cutting him loose is not wise either! Sorry to rain on your parade. He knows and anticipates this on each outing. One reason for him being bouncy and frisky.

The walks and rides you take him on should be enough. Getting his respect is going to take a lot of work and dedication. Making him lie down and sitting on him for 25min is a trust method not a respect method. Watch herd dynamics and you will see what another horse uses for gaining respect. Its not laying another horse down.

I do not want to upset you or offend you but am merely trying to help you to understand a better way of gaining his respect.
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