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post #1 of 9 Old 11-09-2007, 07:37 PM Thread Starter
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Teaching a 12 year old qh to jump and canter again?answers?

Okay well im new here ill add pics of my horse soon butt... im gonna lease a 12 yr old qh and possibly buy him hes a sweet heart he does what ever u ask him to do when u ask and has awesome stable manner comes when called horse he has a nice trot but he was abused before we rescused him so hes afraid to canter and i tried to walk him over some ground poles theres no way he would do it and he folow me where ever i go so i tried walking over it to see if he would follow he wouldnt even let me go over it he shoved me to the side and when i try to canter him he canters a few strides then goes into a fast trot and its hard to keep my stirups and i was wondering do u think i could retrain him to canter and jump?? then owner who had him before tore off his shoes and made him walk/trot/canter over rocks but he has shows the reduce the pressure on his feet. hes a ex jumper / berral racer do u think i could retrain him or do u think i should just find a diff horse??? I love this horse to peices and he only trust me and no one else im stuck in the middle i want to show but then again i love him so much it doesnt matter thanks soo much for ur replys
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post #2 of 9 Old 11-09-2007, 11:13 PM
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First, of course, rule out any physical pain he may be going through:

Have your vet and/or farrier check to make sure he's sound and that his unwillingness to canter is not due to pain. Also, make sure your saddle fits properly. How long ago was it that his previous owner took off his shoes and had him work over rocks? Does he have any lingering pain from that event?

Does he canter on the lunge or out by himself in pasture?

Also, when he takes his few Canter steps, make sure that you do not accidentally pull on the reins at all (giving him mixed signals). Encourage him to move forward with your seat, legs, and voice. If you lose balance a little, grab some mane, but do not lean on your reins at all. Keep them too loose if you have to.

It sounds like he does trust you and that is a good first step! It also sounds like you're bonded to him, so don't give up on him yet! Are you working with a trainer? I think you two could definitely work through these issues, it just may take some time!

Is it just the poles that he won't step over? Try laying a lead rope straight across the ground and see if he'll step over that.
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post #3 of 9 Old 11-11-2007, 05:47 PM
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Ok I dont anything about cantering but I do know something about jumping. I read this is a horsy book so its creditble.

Start with two poles on the ground miles aprt with like a two meter gap between the two ends. Lead him through them. When he's comfy doing that make the gap smaller and smaller until he steps over the two poles touching. If he starts freaking out widen the gap and only do this for short periods of time making the gap smaller by the week/lesson.

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post #4 of 9 Old 11-11-2007, 06:56 PM
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I agree with Equina, rule out any pain or physical issues before you ask him to canter; it could be that in the past he has been pulled on or hurt during the canter and he is anticipating this.
Once you are sure he is not in pain, take him on some trail rides and do some hills to strengthen his hind end; he might be out of shape which means that cantering is hard (do it at both the walk and trot). He could also be unbalanced so he breaks; make sure you are centered and not throwing off his balance.
Good luck, he sounds like a sweet heart!
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agreed! physical pain should be the first thing you look for when trying to figure out what is stopping a horse from doing something. if he has had these issues with being worked over rocks etc then he may be carrying some long term injury or bruising etc that may still be effecting him.

if it is determined that it isnt physical, rather a mental issue, you will need to return to basics and get a lot of groundwork and lunging going with him. it sounds like you have a great bond but you need that trust to follow through with things that he isnt sure about. he should be able to look to you for comfort in times when things are scaring him. start on the ground with a pole. just one. walk him up to it. if he is scared of it, turn him around and come back to it. let him sniff it, snort at it or anything he needs to do to understand the object isnt going to hurt him. each time he refuses, ask him to do some form of work wether it be circles, a turn on the forehand etc etc etc eventually he will figure its easier to walk over the pole than not refuse it. only once he is going over the pole with a 'meh, who cares' attitude, should you push him to do any more than that. this should also teach him to have even more trust in you as you have worked through a fear with him.

when you ask him to canter wether it be on the lunge or in the saddle (preferably on the lunge to start with) and he only does it for a few strides and then trots, bring him back to a slower trot and ask him to canter again. horses find it easier to canter from a slow trot than a fast one. you can never let him get away with cantering and then stopping and doing his own thing. its allowing him to get away with it. when you bring him back to the slow trot, make him work harder eg; figures eights etc so that when you ask him to canter, its actually easier for him.

also be mindful that you arent pulling back on the reins when he canters. if you are a little nervous, you may not be realising that you are putting any pressure on his mouth. give him a free rein and even when he starts cantering, keep urging him on by saying something like 'keep it up, keep it up' and so on. this is what i say and the constant way i say it seems to keep the momentum going. once again, if he starts to trot, bring him back, make him work hard and then ask again.

as said though, be sure there are no physicals issues causing this behaviour. this is very important as you dont want to be perpetuating any injuries.

good luck with him and keep us posted. i wouldnt give up on the old fella though ;)

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post #6 of 9 Old 11-13-2007, 04:31 PM Thread Starter
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thank you :D

thanks so much for reply's I worked over some ground poles and he would hop over them so my guess is that he was a jumper a while ago i raised it up to about 6" high and he jumped over them with ease then a few days after i decided to try a canter i need to tap him with the crop on the sholder a few times to get him to start but he did he went around the arena at a canter its really rough since he hasnt done it in a while i almost fell off of him thats how rough it was and i never fall off at a canter lol so im really hopeing that it will get smoother do u guys know how i can help him with that????? thanks again guys


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post #7 of 9 Old 11-13-2007, 07:42 PM Thread Starter
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no more responses???
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post #8 of 9 Old 11-14-2007, 03:28 AM
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two things spring to mind. either you're on the wrong lead or he is lame in some way. just my thoughts :)

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post #9 of 9 Old 11-14-2007, 05:29 PM Thread Starter
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well we've got him cheacked out and he and he doesnt have anything thing phsyicaly wrong and ill check if hes on the right lead next time thanks for the reply
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