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    03-07-2011, 12:41 AM
  #1
Weanling
Teaching a green horse to cross tie

My 4.5 yo TB gelding has never been cross tied. EVER. He has a very very good head on his shoulders (i.e. Isn't loco) however, when he feels constant pressure on his head he does panic. I am VERY worried to even consider the notion of tying him to something stationary, and am quite certain that once tied off, if he felt pressure he would panic, attempt to back up, and when he didn't get an immediate release something very very bad could/would happen.

So..any tips?
     
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    03-07-2011, 01:09 AM
  #2
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Starlite    
My 4.5 yo TB gelding has never been cross tied. EVER. He has a very very good head on his shoulders (i.e. Isn't loco) however, when he feels constant pressure on his head he does panic. I am VERY worried to even consider the notion of tying him to something stationary, and am quite certain that once tied off, if he felt pressure he would panic, attempt to back up, and when he didn't get an immediate release something very very bad could/would happen.

So..any tips?
The way you've worded makes it sound like he was not taught how to be properly tied. Sounds like he needs to learn how to be tied first and stay calm, and then on to cross-ties.
     
    03-07-2011, 01:22 AM
  #3
Weanling
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Originally Posted by whitetrashwarmblood    
The way you've worded makes it sound like he was not taught how to be properly tied. Sounds like he needs to learn how to be tied first and stay calm, and then on to cross-ties.
to my knowledge, he has never been tied. He spent the first year of life starving in a pasture, rescued by the sheriffs department in my area, purchased by a wannabe cowboy...broke by said wannabe cowboy, who isn't mean, just not knowledgable. Wannabe cowboy hurt his back on a construction site, and hadn't worked with my horse for several months before I bought him (if not years, I will probably never really know for sure) My horse is a good boy, smart and willing but I was told many, many things by wannabe cowboys mother that have turned out to be outright mistruths in regards to my horse's knowledge base so I am basically treating him as if he knows nothing.

This one is scary for me, as I had an arab mare who was tied in a trailer still when the ramp came down..she saw daylight and basically stood on her back feet until her lead broke and fell backward out of the trailer right in front of me..I was 12 (now 29) but am scared to death of an other accident like this ever happening again to any horse I own.
     
    03-07-2011, 01:41 AM
  #4
Trained
When I taught my little one to cross-tie, I set her up in a rope halter [so she couldn't break free], and polo wraps. I tied a long line around one tree, and then as the other cross-tie, I wrapped another long line around another tree an held it taught. I could release if I had to, and the way I set it up, the tree gave me enough leverage that she couldn't wrestle away from me.

I held the line taught for the most part so she could feel the pressure. She spun around, got twisted up, kicked, reared, bucked and fell down, but after 45 minutes, she was just too plum tired to fight anymore. I loosened my end a bit and did a quick release knot, then stood with her and rubbed her and loved on her before unhooking her and walking her out. She's never had a problem in the cross-ties since.
     
    03-07-2011, 02:50 AM
  #5
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starlite    
to my knowledge, he has never been tied. He spent the first year of life starving in a pasture, rescued by the sheriffs department in my area, purchased by a wannabe cowboy...broke by said wannabe cowboy, who isn't mean, just not knowledgable. Wannabe cowboy hurt his back on a construction site, and hadn't worked with my horse for several months before I bought him (if not years, I will probably never really know for sure) My horse is a good boy, smart and willing but I was told many, many things by wannabe cowboys mother that have turned out to be outright mistruths in regards to my horse's knowledge base so I am basically treating him as if he knows nothing.

This one is scary for me, as I had an arab mare who was tied in a trailer still when the ramp came down..she saw daylight and basically stood on her back feet until her lead broke and fell backward out of the trailer right in front of me..I was 12 (now 29) but am scared to death of an other accident like this ever happening again to any horse I own.
Hmm, well I know a lady who used to fold an old tractor tire inner tube around one of the wooden beams along the indoor arena and then tie a strong lead rope to that. The horse she used it for was an OTTB, and after every time she saddled him up he would have random moments where he'd try to break free from being tied. She never got him over it, but besides that weird quirk he was an awesome horse. The inner tube never broke, and it's still been there for years now actually. If you tried that, the inner tube would have more "give" I guess than just tying him to a post.

I also like riccil0ve's idea.
     
    03-07-2011, 10:49 AM
  #6
Weanling
I like the idea with the tree's too. I will try that with him..he is smart enough that I think it may be easy to teach him once he understands the jist of it. Keep fingers crossed for me. We will start working on this tonight. Thanks for the advice guys.
     
    03-07-2011, 11:04 AM
  #7
Trained
Good luck!! Give yourself a lot of time, because you'll never know. =]

Also, this may be a little bad, but I did slightly provoke my filly into fighting. I wanted her to feel stuck and trapped so she knew how to handle it. I did not want to put her in normal feeling cross-ties, have her stand nicely for a few minutes, and then deem her trained. Should I set her up in real cross-ties and she hit one end and panic, I wanted her to handle it.

With the way I did it, she knows not to panic if she backs up to the end and feels the pressure, and she also knows how to fix herself. She also knows that spinning around and getting a line over her head is uncomfortable.
     
    03-07-2011, 11:39 AM
  #8
Foal
Hmm my boy already knew how to tie when I got him but was very green so I found tying up with saftey loops was a good idea, to make your own find somthing you know will snap before the headcollar will and tie that to your tie ring and your horse to the snapable stuff start off tied quite loose (but not so they can wrap thier heads around) to get used to it at first. Hope this helps x
     
    03-07-2011, 11:42 AM
  #9
Yearling
I don't really like cross ties yet we have a set here for the folks that prefer them.
The biggest wrecks on the ranch have happened in them with people that will only use that system.

Here is where I start and this is a two year old.
In my opinion this is the foundation of all tying.


     
    03-07-2011, 11:57 AM
  #10
Trained
Marecare, I just wanted my filly to know everything. You never know when you have to sell, or move to a barn that only has cross-tie set ups and your on pasture, or some such that you have no choice. I also love doing anything to make my girls feel "stuck" so that they can handle themselves. Gracie is a pro, she got hung up on the wall the other day, and quite calmly got her feet under her and stood back up. I've done my best to put her in every situation she can possibly be in so she stays calm. But in general, I usually ground tie. =]
     

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