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    01-08-2011, 06:40 PM
  #11
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Hehe, don't want to butt in, but could someone pleaaase explain me WHAT the carrot thing is? Like how and why do you get carrots on here? Please someone... answer? I have asked this a few times and no one answers me... is it a secret or something?
     
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    01-08-2011, 06:44 PM
  #12
Yearling
I've gotten this mare to understand what "good girl" means, so I will try vocal praise and rubbing her neck where she likes it before using treats. Treats will be my back up. ;)
     
    01-08-2011, 07:10 PM
  #13
Green Broke
I agree with tiny and kitten on the treats. That is my opinion. The only reason I suggested the halter and lead 1st was the OP said the horse was tall and to try and work on the poll right away will be next to impossible.
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    01-08-2011, 07:11 PM
  #14
Yearling
I think I may use a stool if I have to. ;)
     
    01-08-2011, 11:07 PM
  #15
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Hidalgo13    
hehe, don't want to butt in, but could someone pleaaase explain me WHAT the carrot thing is? Like how and why do you get carrots on here? Please someone... answer? I have asked this a few times and no one answers me... is it a secret or something?
Hidalgo, it's not just you! I haven't figured out the "carrot thing" either!

Sometimes I steal one, and then someone else will steal it from me. At any given time I have a total of 1-2 carrots!

As far as treats go, I am a big believer. I know everyone is concerned about teaching the horses to be mouthy and such, but I really have never had treats be a problem. And the horses are MUCH more motivated and happy when treats are involved.

I even avoided giving my mouthy colt treats for the longest time, because I don't want him to be mouthy, right? But I find it makes no difference in his behavior other than I would rather have him staring at me wanting a cookie than chewing on my tack or something else. I know that sounds awful, but I really have had treat make things better and never worse with any of my horses. I find it also breaks the ice and refocuses a nervous horse. Instead of being all looky-lou, they are paying attention to ME.
     
    01-08-2011, 11:19 PM
  #16
Banned
Under the saddle, see-sawing might work. I have to do that with my horses.
So it might work on yours.
     
    01-09-2011, 02:58 AM
  #17
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With regard to treats, I give treats to my horse and he can become a bit mouthy, however he immediately goes back to respectingmy space if I reimind him . My friends horse is not polite about takingthem from my hand and has inhaled my whole hand more than once. So, for him, I dig in my pocket and he gets all attentive, but I move my fingers in the air at the side of his head and say "over!" He will move his head away from me and wait for the treat, which I then place on the ground in front of him. He learns to WAIT and he gets a stretch to go down and the endorphins that come with lowering of the head.

The thing about treats, is make sure you are using them as a reward, not a bribe. There's a big difference.

When mounting, if Mac comes and stands nicely for me and doesnnt walk off when I am in the saddle, I reach forward and give him a treat, but not always or he is only performing for treats. Just someimes to keep him interested in cooperating. I never give him the treat ahead of mounting , like, "here, take this and then you'll be good" That's a bribe.
     
    01-09-2011, 10:01 AM
  #18
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Originally Posted by Hidalgo13    
hehe, don't want to butt in, but could someone pleaaase explain me WHAT the carrot thing is? Like how and why do you get carrots on here? Please someone... answer? I have asked this a few times and no one answers me... is it a secret or something?
I think you can gather carrots and steal other people carrots. Because I don't like steal things even "virtually", I don't play. Lol!
     
    01-09-2011, 10:02 AM
  #19
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Originally Posted by Cowgirl101    
Under the saddle, see-sawing might work. I have to do that with my horses.
So it might work on yours.
Please, please, don't do it to lower a head! Or for anything else (like slowing down)!

The properly trained horse WILL lower the head as long as you pick up the reins and ask.
     
    01-09-2011, 11:53 AM
  #20
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Well ladies, there is this core issue about the matter of treats.

We men bribe our women with baubles, bangels and beads
But when we try the same tactic with our horses, they are undoubtedly the more discerning and they don’t always do as they are asked.

So we men try it again.

Clever those horses aren’t they.
     

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