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    10-20-2010, 10:14 PM
  #21
Foal
My grandpa was an old cowboy and had the BEST fix for this! I will have to try to look up the knot so I can tell you...

First tie them to something they cannot pull loose, or a halter that will break. Take a lunge line, rope, etc, and attach it to the halter and then over whatever you are tying them to. Don't tie it or wrap it around your hitching post. Take it and wrap it around your horse, around the barrel, where a girth would go. Then you tie this knot (I will seriously find it and edit this!) When they pull back, they squeeze the crap out of themselves, and when they step forward it releases. They teach themselves! Its amazing!

Also, they only learn to stand by standing. My horses have stand camp when young, where they are expected to stand quietly until I say so. If their feet are moving they do not get put away!! And they don't just stand where they get tacked up, I tie to posts in arena, the trailer (if its hooked up), a nice tree in the pasture, whereever I feel like. They learn to stand whereever I stick em!!
     
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    10-20-2010, 10:21 PM
  #22
Showing
Easy, I think this is kinda similar to what you are talking about.


Not exactly but this is the only picture I could find .

ETA: I like to tie my greenies up after I finish working with them for the day. They are tired and not terribly interested in doing much except standing there. Do that for an hour or 2 every day for a week and they learn to stand quietly too.
     
    10-20-2010, 10:27 PM
  #23
Foal
I found the knot!!

It wouldn't let me edit my original post. Its called the bowline knot - and I found videos on youtube!

Smrobs- that's exactly what I mean! My grandpa did it over the bar, but I like the look of through the halter ring better.

I have never actually had to use this method - my stand camp usually does the trick. I have seen tons of my grandpa's two year olds do this though. He used to tie grocery bags to their halters to scare them and make them pull, so they wore themselves out (keep in mind, old school cowboy!) I figure teach right the first time and from the beginning and you can avoid all the drama. But if I had one that was a problem, you better believe I would be breaking out the bowline knot!
     
    10-20-2010, 10:34 PM
  #24
Showing
The bowline is the exact knot that I use every time I tie. I love that no matter how hard they sit back on it, you can still get it untied with very little effort.
     
    10-20-2010, 11:16 PM
  #25
Banned
I agree with everyone who is saying the horse needs to learn to stand tied no matter what... and to use halter/leads that won't break and all....

BUT, since this is a leased horse and I have seen horses get hurt when they aren't the smartest thing. I would lean towards trying out the Blocker Tie Ring. I love mine and use it with all the babies and horses in training. I usually go right for the 2nd setting where you loop it a second time around the bar part so it's harder to pull through but still will give a little.
I always use a rope halter and an extra long lead... about 15 feet. And I will usually tie the very end of the lead rope (make a knot), so that if they are having a huge fit it won't pull all the way through.
I use it to teach them to tie, to work on desensitizing, and to learn patience and stand for long periods.
I just feel it may be a better route since the horse is leased, its very unlikely to get hurt on the tie ring.

     
    10-21-2010, 07:13 PM
  #26
Foal
Thanks so much to everyone who replied to this thread! I think ill try the bowline knot it seems like an effective method, or ill try the Blocker Tie Ring, that also seems very affective. Thanks so much again to everyone
     
    10-21-2010, 07:41 PM
  #27
Showing
I hope it works for you.
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    10-21-2010, 09:48 PM
  #28
Trained
I don't understand the point of the tie-blocker ring. It's a gadget to me. You still need to decide to either TIE your horse or let him get free. You don't need pretty chrome with a kool flippy-thing on it. And you still have to decide if you are going to use just a halter or a halter & neck strap. Make the important decision first and then if you like the cool gadget and want to mount one on every possible place in the yard to tie your horse, go for it.
     
    10-21-2010, 10:15 PM
  #29
Banned
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Originally Posted by NorthernMama    
I don't understand the point of the tie-blocker ring. It's a gadget to me. You still need to decide to either TIE your horse or let him get free. You don't need pretty chrome with a kool flippy-thing on it. And you still have to decide if you are going to use just a halter or a halter & neck strap. Make the important decision first and then if you like the cool gadget and want to mount one on every possible place in the yard to tie your horse, go for it.
I don't consider it a gadget, like I would consider a head setter one.... I find it very useful. They don't "get free" from the tie ring. It allows them to move their feet a little so they don't feel so trapped, and still learn to tie. And there are different settings so if your horse pulls back hard, you can match that so he doesn't pull free. You can't tie all horses to tree and let them fight it out.... some will break their neck before they give up. I have had very good luck with the tie ring.
I really like it for babies, so they don't get hurt... and I use it on all client horses too, for desensitizing and all that. I don't want to get a horse hurt that isn't mine. Once they learn about tying, I will cross tie and single tie to my eye hook on the big tree also.
     
    10-21-2010, 11:40 PM
  #30
Foal
Try using a bungie line to tie him up. When he pulls back, it will go with him and he will be confused as to why it doesnt break, but goes with him. Eventually he will realise that he cannot break the bungie line, because it stretches when he pulls on it, and you will be able to replace it with a normal lead rope. I've had many like this through my hands, and the bungie line trick has always worked.
     

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