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    10-22-2010, 08:47 PM
  #31
Trained
I wouldn't do the bungee line -- on another thread I read where one broke. Can you imagine that snapping back at the horse or a bystander? They're not supposed to break, of course, but they do wear and they can be defective. I know I have had it happen with the regular bungee cords (the rubber ones); brand new out of the box and *snap*. Not fun. One missed my eye by about an inch this summer.
     
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    10-22-2010, 09:06 PM
  #32
Foal
Maybe you should try some ground tying excercises first if the issue is standing still while being tied. You'll have to dedicate some time to it but if your seeking the horse to be calm and still while grooming I have found this most helpful. I usually start my horses with this and then when it comes time to tie them I just have to loop the lead over my tying post and they are calm and quiet. This has worked for me and mine, may be worth a try. If the issue is pulling back...thats another discussion all together.
     
    10-22-2010, 09:30 PM
  #33
Trained
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I don't understand the point of the tie-blocker ring. It's a gadget to me. You still need to decide to either TIE your horse or let him get free.
I disagree. I usually tie solid, and it works, however I tried it with latte and it did not work - She pulls because she is claustraphobic, and not getting free didn't change that mindset.

The blocker tie ring means that on the rare occasion she does pull, she gets a little slack, which alleviates her fear and she stops and relaxes. She doesn't get free.
     
    10-23-2010, 12:26 AM
  #34
Banned
I believe that there are different techniques that work for different people and horses. My old barn owner would use 3 halters and lead ropes and tie the horse to a tree with its face inches from the tree and then let the horse fight it out, until it stopped fighting, the horse would end up cut up and hurt. I underststand why he did this as the horse was hurting itself, but at the same time I would not chose to do this.

Based on the advise given here, I am going to sound like a complete communist, but I would tie the horse while feeding, and get it used to it that way, and then tie it for longer and longer each time it eats, I would start with tying during feeding, then build to keeping it tied after feeding, and then onto tying before feeding. Sure it takes longer to do this training, but I think it is kinder to the horse and has less risks. And no I am not a natural horsemanship follower, and wouldn happily whack the snot out of my horse for any aggressive behavior, I just don't think it is necessary to go balls out all the time.
     
    10-23-2010, 01:43 AM
  #35
Super Moderator
Just a quick aside here, I don't know where anyone got the idea that Natural HOrsemanship followers will not "whack the snot" out of a horse that needs a real , immediate and strong correction for dangerously aggresive behaviour (which I assume woudl be the time when you WOULD do such). All NH folks are NOT namby pamby.

As for tying a horse. Another person spoke of the problem being that the horse will panic because they feel claustrophobic and they leave their mind and freak out. IF the horse learns that there is a release (and they can give it to themselves by "bouncing" off the taut line) then they won't go into full panic mode. I can see how those tie rings might be good. I have never had to deal with this issue, so I am learning a lot from you guys.
     
    10-23-2010, 01:48 AM
  #36
Banned
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Originally Posted by tinyliny    
Just a quick aside here, I don't know where anyone got the idea that Natural HOrsemanship followers will not "whack the snot" out of a horse that needs a real , immediate and strong correction for dangerously aggresive behaviour (which I assume woudl be the time when you WOULD do such). All NH folks are NOT namby pamby.
That was just my personal opinion, I was not trying to speak for a large group. I don't know too much about NHmanship, but I was much more liberal in my approach to dealing with this horse than others had been. I might have used a bad example, but I meant that I am not the type to cuddle my horse to death and love it when it is doing wrong. Sorry if I offended any NH peps.
     
    10-23-2010, 11:42 PM
  #37
Trained
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Originally Posted by AlexS    
And no I am not a natural horsemanship follower, and wouldn happily whack the snot out of my horse for any aggressive behavior, I just don't think it is necessary to go balls out all the time.
WHO in the world said to do that in this post? I mean really, is it anywhere? NH or not...
     
    10-24-2010, 01:48 AM
  #38
Banned
No one did I meant that my comment was much on the cuddle them side than the other comments that were posted here.

Edit - I would take a softer option to this training issue by tying the horse while feeding, while a lot of the advise offered was to tie the horse to an unmoveable thing or hoble it. I was just trying to say that I would take a softer option but am not the sort to cuddle and love my horse through its issues. Sorry that I brought NHship into it, that was a mistake.
     
    10-24-2010, 02:10 AM
  #39
Trained
I've had horses spook when the clip hits the feeder...so that may not be very fool proof either, especially with a confirmed puller; it won't take much for the horse to react, simply because he's not been taught NOT to react.

I'd still go for the tie ring, or ground tie, then gradually retrain how to tie from ground tying.
     
    10-24-2010, 02:22 AM
  #40
Trained
Feeding while tying is just stealing moments. The horse will still eventually have to learn how to stand tied when bored or spooked - You can't be feeding it the whole time you tie it.

It is far better to confront the issue and deal with it the appropriate way for the horses motivation - And yes, solid tying IS the best method for some horses - And some horse, like my mare, need the tie ring or something that gives slack, some need to learn again how to give to pressure, so on and so forth. No ONE way works for every horse, but EVERY horse should be evaluated on their own motivations and taught to tie or re-taught accordingly.
     

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