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post #41 of 51 Old 10-24-2010, 04:02 AM
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And this is the benefit of the internet, everyone can state their case and take from it what they want. Hopefully somewhere in that process the OP will get some advise that makes sense to them.

My previous mare would rear in crossties and become extremely dangerous any time she was tied, She came to me like this, and my fault for not seeing her tied before I bought her. So I fed her and then tied her in her stall while eating, at first I would untie her as soon as she was done, and then I gradually increased the amount of time I left her tied for after eating. Then I moved her to cross ties, and no I did not feed her in the cross ties. I let her be for a min or two, then slowly increased the time. She leant and it worked for me.

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post #42 of 51 Old 11-01-2010, 09:53 PM
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Of course, if horses were taught manners from a young age, this discussion would not be taking place. Personally, I tie them solid from day one, and never had a puller. If they struggle, they learn they cannot break free and stand still. Idiots with little or no experience, do the weirdest things around their horses, can scare them, and so starts the cycle. I have used a loop of bungie for years adn it has never broken. The loop is tied to the solid ring, and the lead rope tied to the loop. Has never failed me. I suggest you invest in good quality bungie that is meant for actual bungie jumping...this is super strong, meant to save peoples lives during a jump. it is not a bungie tie like you buy for car roof racks!! I have owned a yard (barn) for 22 years and it has never failed.
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post #43 of 51 Old 11-05-2010, 01:35 AM
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My grandpa was an old cowboy and had the BEST fix for this! I will have to try to look up the knot so I can tell you...

First tie them to something they cannot pull loose, or a halter that will break. Take a lunge line, rope, etc, and attach it to the halter and then over whatever you are tying them to. DONT tie it or wrap it around your hitching post. Take it and wrap it around your horse, around the barrel, where a girth would go. Then you tie this knot (I will seriously find it and edit this!) When they pull back, they squeeze the crap out of themselves, and when they step forward it releases. They teach themselves! Its amazing!

Also, they only learn to stand by standing. My horses have stand camp when young, where they are expected to stand quietly until I say so. If their feet are moving they do not get put away!! And they dont just stand where they get tacked up, I tie to posts in arena, the trailer (if its hooked up), a nice tree in the pasture, whereever I feel like. They learn to stand whereever I stick em!!

You NEVER want to train a horse this way. I have seen first hand what happens to horses if they pull back with this method. The get cut severely by the rope. Unless you want one very hurt horse and serious vet bill and horse out of commission for many months then use this method. But this si NOT safe.

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post #44 of 51 Old 11-05-2010, 06:40 PM
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If the horse is so dumb as to pull so hard to cut himself with an appropriate rope, then let him. Better him than me. Of course, you wouldn't want to use a nylone rope, for example.
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Exactly, a nice thick cotton rope is perfect for that situation.

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post #46 of 51 Old 11-05-2010, 08:28 PM
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Of course, if horses were taught manners from a young age, this discussion would not be taking place. Personally, I tie them solid from day one, and never had a puller. If they struggle, they learn they cannot break free and stand still. Idiots with little or no experience, do the weirdest things around their horses, can scare them, and so starts the cycle. I have used a loop of bungie for years adn it has never broken. The loop is tied to the solid ring, and the lead rope tied to the loop. Has never failed me. I suggest you invest in good quality bungie that is meant for actual bungie jumping...this is super strong, meant to save peoples lives during a jump. it is not a bungie tie like you buy for car roof racks!! I have owned a yard (barn) for 22 years and it has never failed.
I agree with the belief that good solid training with a young horse is the best solution to future tying issues. Of course we don't live in a perfect world and not all horses get such a start.

This thread has been interesting, a couple of things that intrigued me was the comment about the horse that broke its neck. I have come to the conclusion that in ALL aspects of horses random, freaky tragic accidents happen. For every horse that breaks its neck when tied solid 10,000 probably don't (this is not an official percentage by the way lol). I have found in my own experience that once a horse has had a fight with a rope and lost, this leads to them being more compliant with any form of rope restriction. Horses that know they can't bet a rope are generally easier to lead, and quicker to pick up lunging techniques and also if frightened while under the constriction of a rope tend to settle a lot faster than a horse that has had a fright and is now also fighting the rope. Notice I said in MY experience and used the word 'generally'.

Personally I like the rope around the neck and watch them try to pull their own head off method of teaching to tie, but that's just me.
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Just wanted to add that the thought of saddling a horse in a horse truck absolutely horrifies me, man if that goes pear shaped where do you go?
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Personally I like the rope around the neck and watch them try to pull their own head off method of teaching to tie, but that's just me.
Me too. It's actually rather entertaining to watch something so stupid and then to see the "ta da" look when they get it!
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To those who tie to baling twine...I have seen more accidents at shows through horses breaking free than I can count. Innocent by standers being bulldozed out of the way by runaway horses. Children being knocked over, a whole class disrupted when a loose horse got into the arena and three riders fell off due to their horses reacting to the bolting horse. Yeah...go ahead...feel sorry for your horse when he hurts himself when tied to something solid. Better that than a dead body at a show because he lacks manners, and you won't spend the time to train him.
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In my OP i belive the neck strap and halter is the best way once they learn they can pull but they wont get free they have learned it as for the fancy dancy show horses nifty idea if your gonna tie em wear they can pull put protictive boots and pads on they wont get scars that way Also saddling in a trailer Have you gone crazy .... because thats insane dangerous/all horses need to defintley be taught to tie not that they can break free and we will catch them thats crazy. teach your horse dont make excuses for it
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