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        04-02-2012, 12:53 PM
      #21
    Weanling
    Aw! I feel internet-loved!

    Thank you... I really do appreciate it!
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        04-02-2012, 12:58 PM
      #22
    Weanling
    But I didn't mean shame as in 'shame', here in the S. Of Africa we use it in an endearing way, as is 'shame, isn't that puppy gorgeous!'

    Just want to clarify, in case there is an across the world misunderstanding...
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        04-02-2012, 01:00 PM
      #23
    Weanling
    ...which I'm sure there wasn't.

    Ah! Its so confusing! :)
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        04-02-2012, 05:32 PM
      #24
    Foal
    Agree with TigerStripes here. Plus, having that horse dragging behind you creates all kinds of risks for you and the horses. You have a lot more control with the horse along side you. In fact, you're best with the horse's head slightly in front of the knee at the shoulder of the horse you're on.

    With the horse where you have her, she can easily be kicked. If she slams on the breaks or starts to run backward, you're either going to be on the ground, dealing with an injured shoulder or back or checking for bows after that nylon lead raps around her legs as she runs away loose. She could spin and the two horses could get into a kicking fest that won't consider if you're in the way. If she runs forward, you have no leverage as she builds speed and passes you.

    Glad you had a good ride this weekend. Please consider a different approach to keep you all safe in the future.
         
        04-03-2012, 03:58 AM
      #25
    Weanling
    Thanks you guys, but I'm feeling a little discouraged by the tone of the recent replies...

    I really appreciate it, and I know in general on this forum, the comments are aimed at the lowest common denominator, just to be on the safe side. But please for my own sake, I'm going to have to say something, before I decide never ever to post anything this forum again, especially pictures.

    Its kind of sad that I am feeling like I need a resume to be spoken to like an adult on this forum sometimes, but its important for me to let you guys know that I'm not some green teenager teaching trick to my poneh, or some backyard hillbilly rider, or whatever you guys are imagining right now.

    I also never formally introduced myself, as I prefer anonymity, so that may be part of the problem.

    Firstly, about me... I have never ponied a horse before, so I may be doing it all wrong,

    BUT, I have ridden for 19 years now (hate admitting that, makes me feel old!), and have owned horses for 17 years (stabled at home, not at boarding facilities, so I am actively involved in their care), and I have never been seriously injured by a horse (although I have a blue-ish toe atm), and have never ever ever been involved in an incident where a horse has been injured, or even lamed. Although I have had a couple of pasture injuries, but horses will be horses... Maybe I'm trying to show that I'm in general quite a safe person, or maybe it just shows that I have an over-active Guardian Angel, or maybe I'm a freak. I don't know.

    I've only owned 8 horses in my life admittedly, but yes, I am careful and obsessive. I've never ever even had a colic in 17 years (touch wood!).

    I also work with two different trainers on a weekly basis, one geared towards each horse's different needs and capabilities. I work hard at doing the best I can for them.

    All is just to say that I'm an adult, and I know horses and I'm sensible... but obviously not that I'm NOT wrong here!

    But on that note, back to the ponying... I asked for opinions and advice, as it was something I thought was risky, but wanted to see if it was viable. From the comments given by all you awesome people, I came to the conclusion that it is a preference whether the horse walks at the stirrup, or further behind, not a rule. I stand corrected, and I agree with the dangers that were pointed out.

    But I also would like to point out that the way we were walking was the way it was most comfortable for my particular horses, for their first attempt. I mentioned that the ridden mare got a bit pissy only when the led mare came alongside her, so in my particular case I still feel it was safer to do it the way I did. I will work on getting the led mare further forward, but it will take work, I will not force them in that position if they are still feeling a bit careful about their personal space, in relation to each other. (if I ever do this again that is, as I am a bit put off)

    The other thing I picked up, about the lead rope, I will admit fault to... but as I have never had a rope related horse injury, the material that the rope is made of didn't even enter my mind as a danger, what with all the other things I was trying to bear in mind. But it should have, it was naive of me. This is just the generic lead rope that you get at the tack shop when you ask for a lead rope... maybe it means something different here than it does there, and its a misunderstanding between me and you all. I am gathering from the comment that I should use a thick cotton rope??? Or something else? Anyway, thank you.

    Also, I will mention, English is not my first language, although I do try my best, and consider myself relatively fluent, my friends do still laugh at me regularly, and I do reread and edit my posts to death, I may come across like a fool because I just misunderstood a subtle difference in terms.

    MN Tigerstripes: Thank you for the tone you used, and the way you worded your reply. You didn't make me feel like a complete idiot.


    Sorry to put you all through this... Thanks if you read it. Sorry if I'm oversensitive, but I had to get it off my chest.
    That's it from me... Ciao chow.
         
        04-03-2012, 07:39 AM
      #26
    Yearling
    I didnt get the sense that the tones were condescending, more along the lines of 'Oops, be careful!' No one wants to see anyone get hurt! :)-
    I am glad you had a good first try. I will also suggest, like others, that you should try to keep the led horse up by your knee.-
    Imagine he is being led behind, like in the photo, and you are holding the lead with your right hand. If he suddenly bolts to his left, you could get tangled up, lose the horse, or even get knocked off by the rope. That is why it is safer having the horse next to you, it can only move away to the right, and you will be better balanced to get him back behaving.-
    No one's knocking you, just trying to help! :)-
    Btw, we always use a rope halter with a long rope lead as opposed to the flat nylon set. :)
         
        04-03-2012, 08:50 AM
      #27
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Skipsfirstspike    
    I didnt get the sense that the tones were condescending, more along the lines of 'Oops, be careful!' No one wants to see anyone get hurt! :)-
    I am glad you had a good first try. I will also suggest, like others, that you should try to keep the led horse up by your knee.-
    Imagine he is being led behind, like in the photo, and you are holding the lead with your right hand. If he suddenly bolts to his left, you could get tangled up, lose the horse, or even get knocked off by the rope. That is why it is safer having the horse next to you, it can only move away to the right, and you will be better balanced to get him back behaving.-
    No one's knocking you, just trying to help! :)-
    Btw, we always use a rope halter with a long rope lead as opposed to the flat nylon set. :)
    Please don't leave us. Keep us updated on how your ponying goes and add more pictures.
         

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