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    04-24-2014, 04:13 PM
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Foal
teen daughter to train a young warmblood

We are looking at a six year old 16. 3 hand american warmblood x oldenburg this weekend to purchase for my teenage daughter. She is a good rider, has competed in level 0 jumpers, equitation, and hunters. She has jumped over 4 feet. She has retrained a OTTB after a long time off with the assistance of her trainer. But I want to make sure I'm not getting 'had'. Her trainer says that if we like the horse, she will pick him up the next day if we decide to purchase. Then, she wants to wait up to two months to begin handling him so as to let him get used to his surroundings. She doesn't expect anyone to be able to even get on his back until about October...(she is pregnant and due in September)... She has repeatedly told me that she can work with my daughter and my daughter has the skills to train a horse under her watch. Our trainer loves starting young horses, but I'm wondering if this is more a project for her than it is for my daughter. The horse is $3500 and with boarding costs until October, I'm looking at this horse costing another $2400 before she thinks anyone can get on him... Am I right in my suspicions or am I a pessimist when trusting people... P.S. Our trainer has never steered us wrong before, but there's a first time for everything...Any thoughts on training this young horse and what my expectations should be would be truly appreciated. I'm just the mom writing the checks, not a professional!
     
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    04-24-2014, 04:20 PM
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Trained
Two MONTHS to get used to its new surroundings? I don't think so. The longest I've EVER had a horse take to settle into a new place was a week and that was my Thoroughbred [who was untouchable when I got her and easy to halter within a week...]

I could understand a couple of months if the horse was off the track and needed to let down, but for a warmblood? I think not.
     
    04-24-2014, 04:27 PM
  #3
Weanling
I would not agree with waiting 2 months to handle him. Or even a month. I would start work the very next day available that is good for everybody. I don't feel the need to let a horse lay idle to get used to a new place. They have 24 hours a day to do that, and for the hour I want to do something. They can do it. That is the only thing that bothers me. I would bring it up, and tell her you aren't willing to let the horse lay idle for two months. And work needs to start soon after his arrival. After all, then he could at least develope manners, and be lunged, longe lined, ground driven, etc and have time to get it all very solid. If that is what you want. I just don't see anything good happening in setting in a stall or pasture eating and costing money and getting sassy. The sooner the work starts the better. Good luck :)
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    04-24-2014, 04:28 PM
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Seems an awful long time to have to wait!

I assume that at six the horse has been ridden? If it hasn't then I would want to know the reason why because someone might have hit problems, left him and then decided to sell as unbroken.

Even of everything is genuine and he is unbroken he should be rideable within a month.

Personally I do not believe in giving a horse a chance to settle. I like to fond out what they are like within 24 hours. You do not, if going to a show, give him a chance to settle and get use to his surroundings.

What are her reasons for taking so long?
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    04-24-2014, 04:39 PM
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Yearling
Is she maybe trying to wait until she has her baby? I'm with foxhunter. I typically give my horses a week before I start any hard work (they're messed with from the time they arrive just not 'worked'). But that's more for me so I can get use to them on the ground! I'd ask her what her reasoning his because I would not accept laying a six year old off for two months.
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    04-24-2014, 04:41 PM
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The only reason I could possibly think of it being a good idea to let him sit for a month is if he was a stud being gelded as soon as he was bought, with an injury or something on top of that. The longer you let a horse be idle, the more trouble it gets itself into. Also, for a WB like him, if he IS being ridden consistently now, letting him sit for 2 months would likely cause him to backtrack quite a bit. I'd say give him 2 days to settle, then start doing ground work/lunging. By the end of the week there should be no problem with him being put through his paces in the arena.
     
    04-24-2014, 04:44 PM
  #7
Foal
So, I'm not sure why she has said she wanted to wait so long... she has in the past, mentioned that she would take a horse right off the trailer and do some basic stuff with him... maybe not literally, but soon after he arrives - no waiting around for months.

My feeling is that she wants this project for herself once she has her baby. Maybe charge for training board once the baby arrives? I don't know. But why say my daughter can do this with her supervision then? This is what she loves to do... In the meantime, she wants my daughter to continue lessoning on and competing her OTTB. I thought that the lessons should be her instructing my daughter with her new horse.... first on the ground, and then eventually on his back..

As for the reasons why no one has gotten on this horse (I know so far that he is only halter broke, if that is what it is called)...my thoughts again - why?

I have lots of questions for the seller, but I think the advice about being clear what our expectations are for training this guy is right on.. and it's definitely a conversation I will have before we make the trip to see the horse.
     
    04-24-2014, 04:48 PM
  #8
Foal
Thank you everyone for the quick reply for the ignorant mom trying to make my daughter's dreams come true without losing my mind first!!
     
    04-24-2014, 04:50 PM
  #9
Weanling
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Originally Posted by marionette188    
So, I'm not sure why she has said she wanted to wait so long... she has in the past, mentioned that she would take a horse right off the trailer and do some basic stuff with him... maybe not literally, but soon after he arrives - no waiting around for months.

My feeling is that she wants this project for herself once she has her baby. Maybe charge for training board once the baby arrives? I don't know. But why say my daughter can do this with her supervision then? This is what she loves to do... In the meantime, she wants my daughter to continue lessoning on and competing her OTTB. I thought that the lessons should be her instructing my daughter with her new horse.... first on the ground, and then eventually on his back..

As for the reasons why no one has gotten on this horse (I know so far that he is only halter broke, if that is what it is called)...my thoughts again - why?

I have lots of questions for the seller, but I think the advice about being clear what our expectations are for training this guy is right on.. and it's definitely a conversation I will have before we make the trip to see the horse.
Do remember just because he hasn't been started that it doesn't mean he is bad. Some people buy a nice horse, thinking they can break it, or have a trainer train it. Then they realize they don't have the knowledge, time, money, or experience. I personally don't think a horse should be broke before 4-5 depending on the horse. So he isn't that far off IMO
     
    04-24-2014, 04:51 PM
  #10
Yearling
2 months?! Ha! Funny joke... I wouldn't wait more than two days to let the horse settle in. Start at least doing groundwork by that point, if he isn't broke to ride. I would expect a green horse to be able to put through his paces by two months. Why does your trainer thinks he needs that much time to settle in..?
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