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        04-24-2014, 04:56 PM
      #11
    Weanling
    You do not want a horse that is a potential show horse that takes 2 months to get used to its surroundings.
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        04-24-2014, 05:43 PM
      #12
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    I think she is letting you foot the bill for 'her' next project horse. A 6 year old needed started yesterday. I think she is afraid that if your daughter starts her now, even with supervision, she will be unable to 'bale her out' and fix any problem that comes up.

    If you daughter is ready for a project horse, (and she might well be), why not look for one this fall, find one that is 3-5 years old and start working with it a week after you start footing the bill? The $2500.00 you put in this horse before fall will not make her worth a penny more. You will just have a lot more money in it.

    JMHO, Cherie
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        04-24-2014, 06:02 PM
      #13
    Yearling
    I am a huge fan of being direct

    Ask why it takes 2 months -- it is possible (although unlikely) that she has a good reason

    Never hurts to ask .... tactfully (sometimes I forget to be tactful when being direct)
         
        04-24-2014, 06:13 PM
      #14
    Weanling
    If it were me, I'd have a meeting with the trainer and ask these questions you're asking here. Tell her you don't understand why she'd have to wait 2 months, etc. If her answers make sense to you after you discuss it, then go for it. If she seems like she's contradicting herself, telling you things that don't seem right, if she evades the questions, or gets mad at them, walk away.

    Your daughter sounds like she has some experience. What does she say about all of it?
         
        04-24-2014, 06:23 PM
      #15
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by marionette188    
    Thank you everyone for the quick reply for the ignorant mom trying to make my daughter's dreams come true without losing my mind first!!

    Good luck with that one, I don't mean being an ignorant mum, heck we are all still learning, and being a mum is a constant adventure. It's the second part that you need luck with, making her dreams come true without losing your mind, good luck.

    I'm minded of one of my favorite songs, "Some of Gods Greatest Gifts are Unanswered Prayers" You are so right to look for advice and support, because what daughter wants and what she should have maybe a ways apart. The more you arm yourself with knowledge the better, but your best advocate is an experienced person who knows your daughter well and can find that perfect horse, and I'm not sure that the deal in front of you gives you that.

    Keep asking, keep looking, and GOOD LUCK
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        04-25-2014, 07:08 AM
      #16
    Foal
    Thank you everyone.... I do have these concerns. You all just articulated them more eloquently then I did!! I will be having a conversation with her today. I hope it all goes the right way. I have never had any issues with this trainer; she has been great with my daughter for the last three years or so. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed!
         
        04-25-2014, 07:18 AM
      #17
    Green Broke
    Speak to your trainer.

    7 months pregnant and taking on an unbroke horse.. she may be seeing a good potential horse for your daughter, but may not want to risk being around an animal so heavily pregnant. No two horses are the same, and at 6 I would be wondering WHY he hasn't already been started.

    Speak to the owners and find out why he has been left for so long. Is it medical, is it time, is it because he has attitude problems?

    When you go to see him, TAKE the trainer. Let her see him free school, being handled or lunged where possible. See how he leads, picks his feet up for picking out and normal things. If he is relaxed and chilled about that, your daughter could start with ground work fairly quickly (a week max) with supervision from afar.

    Not trying to put you off at ALL, but if he seems too laid back, remember people do drug their horses. You may want to mention you want to draw bloods to store when you do a PPE. Owners will have no issue with it, or they'll tell you no... if they say no.. run.

    It would take some special creature for me to buy at six years that is nothing but halter broke, and then sit in a stable/field for a few months.

    Remember, there are ALWAYS horses for sale.

    Trust gut instinct, and ask lots of questions. Don't let your daughter buy with her heart instead of her head. Been there, done that.. got the bruises.

    There are many threads about buying horses, and the sort of questions you should ask. Your trainer should know them all, but I hope this all works out for you!

    Don't be taken in by "nice" sellers, either. I always look at it like someone has something to hide. Not a nice way, but I've seen lots of people duped, and had a rough time myself.

    Best of luck
         
        04-25-2014, 08:02 AM
      #18
    Green Broke
    Ditto I'd be asking why 2 months? If it is because she thinks they will be a good match but with her being heavily pregnant doesnt want to start something she can't finnish then maybe buying the horse and sending it away for a while for training would be a good idea.

    I personaly bought an undhandled 4year old, he did a 15hr journey having never been in a lorry before, arrived with me stressed, under weight and paniced like you wouldnt believe. He was given a week to settle and now 4 weeks after he arrived he is handling, trotting up inhand, bitted, lunged in sidereins, about to start long reining and very settled in his stable (still settling in his field) oh and during all that he had a week off lame so realy he has had 3 weeks of work on him!
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        04-25-2014, 08:04 AM
      #19
    Green Broke
    ^
    You getting him ready in time for my visit? :P

    ETA
    When I bought my 3yo stallion, he'd had a handful of rides on him.
    He was vet checked, bungled in to a trailer for the second time in his life, driven to my yard, unloaded. He was hand walked in the arena and then put to bed.

    The next morning, I lunged and rode him.

    I lunged him in the arena, there were horses and tractors going past. There were other breeding stallions calling out, mares calling out and people at the door watching. Walked and trotted him both reins, all over the school for twenty minutes and he didn't put a foot wrong. He tried, and he was sent forward.

    Set in stone from day one what kind of horse and owner you want to be.
         
        04-25-2014, 08:07 AM
      #20
    Green Broke
    Duffy, come accross anytime, lenny will give you lots of pony kisses and cuddles.
    He even was allowed to be turned out without a headcollar on for the first time on wednesday! He now comes to call and almost shoves his head in the headcollar so has been allowed to go out without it on! (admittedly there may be a few carrots involved! Strange pony doesnt like mints!)
    I've updated his training log with new photos!
         

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