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    04-06-2009, 05:38 PM
LOL iride.

My guy's have always ground tied, but at this clinic we had to park them, walk a good distance away and then come "skipping" up to them as fast as we could. Kooter stood still but his eye's bugged out of his head like he thought I was nuts......
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    04-06-2009, 06:53 PM
A lot of trainers will just tie a horse and leave him for hours on end. It teaches them patience. It's how my draft was trained, and it worked like a charm.
    04-06-2009, 07:09 PM
Originally Posted by G and K's Mom    
LOL iride.

My guy's have always ground tied, but at this clinic we had to park them, walk a good distance away and then come "skipping" up to them as fast as we could. Kooter stood still but his eye's bugged out of his head like he thought I was nuts......

LOL, that's hilarious.. I have the best image in my head right now!
    04-06-2009, 11:46 PM
Originally Posted by Jessabel    
A lot of trainers will just tie a horse and leave him for hours on end. It teaches them patience. It's how my draft was trained, and it worked like a charm.
The only problem with this is if the horse is already prone to pulling back, he can get in trouble if he's tied up hard and can't escape, he may end up breaking the lead. If something suddenly blows up by him/at him, especially....

For a horse that hasn't developed the habit of pulling back, leaving the horse tied for hours may work just fine (personally, I don't like the idea, but I do know of people who swear by it).

Here's another example of the pull back problem:

This horse pulled the 22 ft line 3 times through the blocker tie ring (there are 3 settings and I had to use the last setting, which is basically two loops...he still has give, but has to work harder to get the line to move)

He has been knocking down his owner in his blind panics (when something scary catches his eye...mostly moving things that make noise) and has broken leads. His owner will not tie him......yet.

It took 1 hour to get him to start to think and stop reacting. (If you'll notice in the first frame there's some white stuff on the left side of his withers. That's froth from his mouth. He worked himself up to a blind panic frenzy (I didn't even wave the plastic bag with much effort, either).... but then finally at about 45 minutes, he started to decide that maybe he could really just stand there and think it over and stopped pulling back even through I made the bag fly by his head and face (both sides).
    04-07-2009, 01:06 AM
Excuse my ignorance...but what is ground tying and how do you train your horse to do it? Another thing....I can't even trust Major to be tied up for 10 minutes by himself so its really not possible to leave him tied unattended yet. He pulls back so hard on the lead rope with me standing there that its very difficult to get untied after only being tied a few minutes....given to much time I know that the halter or lead would break.
    04-07-2009, 01:35 AM
You can teach a horse to ground tie in much the same way you teach a dog to stay. At least that's how I've done it. There's nothing wrong with ground tying, but I think it's ridiculous when horses don't tie. My horse does both. I've always used a strong lead and a rope halter, tied them to an immovable object, like a tree, until they yield. And ponied them with their lead tied to the saddle. I also have my horses run around in the pasture with their lead ropes dragging. They will step on it and then have to wait for me to come "fix" it.

However, if your horse is spooking, ground tying might result in him just taking off when he gets scared. Has he been sacked out? I think he should be introduced to all sorts of things, you should have him step on plastic bags, sewer drains on the street that make those lovely loud clangy sounds when walked on, get a whip and swoosh it around by him, have a friend sit in a car and rev the engine, honk, etc while you walk your horse by. It seems to me that he's just uncertain and inexperienced when it comes to the world around, so the more sights, sounds, smells, whatever you can introduce him to will help.

Also, why I prefer a good hard tree as opposed to something like a ring in the wall or a board is that the tree won't break, but if they break what they are tied to, it will just make another bad memory for them to hang on to. Best of luck! I hope you find something that works for you and your horse!
    04-07-2009, 11:38 AM
For anyone interested in ground tying-

If anyone has access to The Trail Rider magazine's Jan/Feb 2009 issue, Julie Goodnight did an excellent article on ground tying.
I can give a short synopsis
teach him to stand still:
Using a rope halter and long lead rope (w/o metal clip) start off asking the horse to whoa. Watch for any movement. THe instant he attempts to pick up a hoof give him a correction by flicking your wrist up and down sending a wave motion up the rope to the horses head. You must correct within 3 seconds for him to understand your meaning. Be careful you are not jerking his head toward you, giving the cue to walk forward. You want to increase the motion until he stands still.
Continue getting further and further away while holding the lead rope. Its best to use a long lead (14' or longer). Give correction every time the horse moves his feet
Lay down the lead:
After you feel he has the whoa and stand still down, lay down the lead while you hang on to the very end. Make sure the lead hangs straight down from your horses head while you hang on to the very end. While facing your horse walk away further and further. If he attempts to make a step, correct him with the rope. You should be flicking the rope hard enough to send a wave through the rope to have the big knot under his chin flopping and for him to back up a step. If your not getting enough correction, work on really flipping the rope up and down. Practice until you can get to the end of the rope all aroung him without any movement.
Walk away:
Lay the rope on the ground while saying whoa. Slowly walk a few steps away from him. If he moves, say whoa and move to the lead rope to correct him. Move him back to the original position and repeat until he stands still when you walk a few steps away. Work up to larger distances all the way around the horse. Eventually you should be able to turn your back on him and walk away. Its best to keep facing him till he gets it down.
Continue to increase the time he stands still and the distance away. I do tacking up grooming etc while they remain ground tied. I think its a good lesson to get them to stand still for just about anything.

I know this is a really condensed version hope you can make some sense of it.
    04-07-2009, 02:37 PM
I tie Major to a tree too. Its really my only choice unless I take him in the barn...but I feel like that's not teaching him anything because that's his comfortable zone....I want him to be ready for the real world. My goal is to be able to go trail riding this summer away from home. We have a lot of big rides that go on during the summer that's not to far from here. Of course Major is a long way from that just yet. Right now I would never think of ground tieing him....he would bolt and run off.....but its good to know how to do it for future training. TY all very much for your advice and training tips....IDK what I would do without this forum
    04-07-2009, 02:55 PM
Here's my good boy at a clinic. There were 11 other horses being worked at the same time, I'm about 100 feet away yacking to one of the ladies.

He already knew how to ground tie, but that was at home without any distractions. This was pretty huge for him. He was asked to stand there for about 10-15 minutes.

    04-07-2009, 08:27 PM
What a good boy!!! That's great!!!!

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