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    01-08-2013, 09:40 AM
Toby-the horse with no canter.

Well, he can kinda canter. But its more like a bunny hop in the back, with a crazy throw-my-legs-out-in-front of me stride in the front. When he settles down, he will pick up a lead, but he wobbles and crossfires ad leans this way and that. He's 12 yrs old, 15.3h and just recently brought out of 2 yrs on pasture. I've been doing mild round penning with him to see if he'll figure himself out, but I was wondering what else I can do with him?
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    01-08-2013, 09:56 AM
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Can he canter decently in the round pen without a rider?
Does he canter OK out in the pasture?
Without cross-firing?

If he canters ok without a rider, I would head out to a big pasture or a long dirt trail and canter for a long distance without turns or circles. That is where we get them comfortable cantering.

A lot of resistance to cantering usually means the horse is uncomfortable (as in needs a chiropractor) or has a 'mental thing' about cantering and just needs a lot of it.
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    01-08-2013, 09:58 AM
The only place i've seen him canter is the round pen, without a rider, and that's where he bunny hops and crossfires and leans. I havent tried to canter on his back yet as I don't want him to slip or hurt himself (or me!)
I may try free lunging in a bigger area so he can get himself together though.... thanks cherie :)
    01-08-2013, 10:12 AM
At a show I witnessed a big quarter horse loping with an odd pop. As his hind end came off the ground, instead of his legs going under his belly, like your horse, there was an extra pop higher which popped the rider out of the saddle with each stride. When the chance arose I mandered over when the rider was waiting for another class and the horse was standing stretched out as tho trying to get weight off his toes that perhaps he had coffin bone rotation going on. He was shod on the front. It made me wonder if the odd gait was him trying to compensate for soreness.
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    01-08-2013, 10:18 AM
Originally Posted by AnalisaParalyzer    
the only place i've seen him canter is the round pen, without a rider, and that's where he bunny hops and crossfires and leans. I havent tried to canter on his back yet as I don't want him to slip or hurt himself (or me!)
I may try free lunging in a bigger area so he can get himself together though.... thanks cherie :)
Yes, what Cherie is saying is good. Plus I would add, take him out of the round pen, in terms of a horse learning to balance himself - round pens are not helpful at all, the round shape tends to help a horse circle instead of making him stand upright and balance on a circle, the horses will tend to lean in and get unbalanced and use the round shape as a crutch.

I've seen plenty of horses lunged in a round pen and as soon as you take them out of the round pen they lean and pull and generally don't know what they're doing on the end of the lunge line
    01-08-2013, 02:00 PM
I would definitely check for stifle issues...
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    01-08-2013, 02:18 PM
To me, that sounds like some kind of discomfort issue. Especially when you say he throws his feet out in front. The canter requires the horse to bear all his weight and push off of one rear leg , for a single step. If his pelvis and back are out of whack, it'll surely show up at that moment where he is supposed to bear weight on the starting leg. He will try to "hop" , too, so that he is not bearing the weight on one rear leg, but rather on two.
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    01-08-2013, 03:43 PM
No riding for this guy until the owner gets a chiro out then.... horses....geeeez.
    01-08-2013, 04:29 PM
Is he cantered with a saddle? Chance can canter perfectly without a rider (it's so pretty!) but come a rider on his back, he looks like scooby-doo running. I'm thinking the saddle is hindering him. Does it fit properly? Not too wide, not too narrow?
    01-08-2013, 04:42 PM
I've never cantered him under saddle because I didnt want him to slip or hurt himself or me. Everything i've mentioned has been done in a lunge ring, no rider.

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