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post #11 of 89 Old 02-14-2012, 01:41 PM
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I didn't feel criticised, DrumRunner, just wan't to clarify. =D
Boy, no matter WHAT the discipline, we all see bad practice. **sigh**
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You got that right.

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post #13 of 89 Old 02-14-2012, 01:44 PM
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Hi, I've always used a tom thumb when I move up from a D ring snaffle. Is this bit harsher than it seems? Iv'e heard lately that the tom thumb is frowned upon.....can anyone enlighten me?
Ugh....Tom Thumbs are the poorest designed bit architecturally and mechanically (I seem to repeat myself with this when it comes to Tom Thumbs.) When you add shanks to a single jointed mouthpiece, it becomes a WHOLE DIFFERENT ball of wax. With a Tom Thumb you have a straight shank which is even worse! There is no "play" time between contact and the action of the bit...it is immediate.

Get a shorter shank low port with a barrel; I tried to cut and paste a pic from Schnieders but was unsuccessful.

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Get a shorter shank low port with a barrel; I tried to cut and paste a pic from Schnieders but was unsuccessful.
Such as a junior cow horse?
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I think you've probably got enough information on the TT so I'll just suggest a bit. :)

I got this curb bit for my mare on the recommendation of a member here and I've found it to be wonderful.

The mouthpiece is solid so there aren't any confusing signals, the shanks are loose so -if she decides to "forget" how to neckrein- I can briefly direct rein without confusing her, and the shanks are pretty short and swept back so there's lots of "warning room" before the bit is engaged. It also makes a pretty good snaffle if you attach reins to the holes next to the mouthpiece (I do that sometimes if my mare is being especially goosey about "remembering" how to neck rein, I attach reins to both holes and go for it).

The one thing that can be disconcerting is that that bit rusts fast. Since it's sweet iron it's supposed to rust so there's nothing to worry about. You do want to make sure the rust is never sharp (and if it is, smooth it down with steel wool) but the rust itself is actually a good thing.
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I personally LOVE the Jr Cowhorse bit..I have a twisted mouth piece and two of my barrel horses love it.
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When you say "move up" what are you meaning? More severe, less severe? What discipline do you ride? Flexion can be taught with a snaffle. I always ride in a snaffle. Except when I go in the show ring for WP, then I use the curb.
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All of the western horses I have ridden usually went well in a TT. I got my new guy (who is green) and its a whole different ball park for the horse. My guy goes well in a plain ol' rubber D ring snaffle. If you can find any way around using the TT then I'd definitely opt for something better.
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Such as a junior cow horse?
This is the bit...now that I am home and can post it from my hard drive:

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All of the western horses I have ridden usually went well in a TT. I got my new guy (who is green) and its a whole different ball park for the horse. My guy goes well in a plain ol' rubber D ring snaffle. If you can find any way around using the TT then I'd definitely opt for something better.
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There is ALWAYS a way around using a TT. Just don't use it. Those bits should be gathered up, put on a boat, and sent to a deserted island never to return.
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