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    08-10-2012, 02:09 PM
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Question Too Fast? Not Fast Enough? Right On Track?

Beings as this is my first time training a horse from the ground up I want to see where I'm standing.

Dice is 3 and a half and when I got him he'd been led and lunged that's about it. I got him 3 months ago.

Here's everything I've trained him to do so far. My question is with him being 3 and a half am I moving too fast? Too slow? Or am I right on track with training? He learns quick and gets bored easily so it's not hard to keep working on things but he acts much older than he actually is haha. I have to keep reminding myself he's only 3 and a half and not to push him too fast.

Here's the list...I may have forgotten some stuff so if you think I should have done something by now just ask because I may have but might have forgotten to put it on the list.

On the ground-

- He stands tied
- Stands tied when other horses are walking/trotting past him past him
- Leads like a dream
- Picks up all 4 feet without issue and will hold them up as long as you’re holding them
- Loves the hose
- Stands for baths and grooming
- Loads and unloads calmly in the trailer without me having to lead him in…I point his nose he goes(both a 2 horse straight load and a 4 horse slant both step ups)
- Knows round penning work
- Inside turns in round pen
- Outside turns in round pen
- Come to me cue in round pen and in field
- Different gaits in the round pen
- He’s fine with plastic bags around his legs I attached them to his boots one at a time in the round pen and sent him him around at each gait in each direction and he never bat an eye.
- He's been sacked out with towels, unbrellas, water bottles, plastic bags, lariets, exercise balls, and other things and nothing fazes him.
- 90% of the time he ground ties. There are those 10% when his baby brain is like “oh shiney! Must go investigate!”
- Stands to be booted(leg boots)
- Stands to be saddled
- Takes the bit like a dream
 
In Saddle-

- Stands to be mounted and dismounted
- Can mount and dismount on both sides
- Light leg cues
- Leg cue to walk
- Leg cue to trot
- Leg cue to canter (we don’t do much canter work only about twice per session if that and only for a few strides)
- Turns on a little bit of pressure.
- Back up cue
- Woah cue at all gaits walk, trot, canter
- Can very the speed of each gait (so I can cue him to walk faster or slower, trot faster or slower etc)
- Introduced him to poles and barrels (didn’t do a pattern just walked aimlessly around them and leg us “bump them” and I purposely pulled a few poles over making sure some fell in front, behind, on the sides, and that some bumped him as he fell and he did AMAZING acted like it was completely normal.
- A deer jumped out on our trail ride and all he did was trot and as soon as I lifted the rein to stop he dropped his butt and stood.

Also awesome story!
Took him to his first ever show 2 weeks ago and he did AMAZING! We went in the arena and walked the patterns. Also a very bad thunderstorm popped up out of nowhere while I was riding him. A big bolt of lightening shot across the sky and a crack of thunder followed and it was so loud it shook the ground and trailers. My barn owner was near our trailer and the other 2 horses flew back at the trailer when this happened and he panicked and told his son to run and check on me because I was on "the baby"(he's the youngest horse on the farm haha) Little did they know that he was an ANGEL. Everyone else's horses were bolting, freaking out, and flying back but not Dice. During the loud crack I jumped and he stood perfectly still and calm and then turned his head to look at me as if to say "Ok mom what are we doing now." and I was like "Ha we're going to head back to the trailer and go home." And my barn owner was amazed when we came calmly walking back to the trailer. He said he couldn't believe that a three year old was that calm when my 14 yr old barrel horse tried to break loose. It showed he had so much trust in me that I wasn’t going to let him get hurt and that he looked to me for what to do next. Even with a bunch of horses freaking out around him he looked to ME. That is one of the biggest compliments I could get I guess haha.
 
 
So what do you think? Am I going too fast, slow, or right on track for his age and how fast he learns everything?

And just because he's cute =P
     
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    08-10-2012, 04:48 PM
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At 3 1/2, you can step up the under saddle work. Definitely actually start loping him and teaching him how to carry himself at the lope.

You ought to be able to move his body around any way you want. Forehand turns, pivots, sidepassing, two tracking, etc. You should start being able to push his shoulder around and his hip around when you are walking/jogging/loping.
     
    08-10-2012, 05:00 PM
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Green Broke
I agree that at this age you can work on the canter to help balance and build up, but funnily enough I had this exact same discussion with my trainer in regards to my first young un today, same age as yours but Dubai and I have only been together a month.

As for sidepassing etc she said it depends on the horse and balance. If your horse can walk a straight line without relying on the school walls forwards and confidently then begin it but if you're still walking like a noodle keep working on forwards downwards. I am a dressage rider however so forwards downwards may not apply I have no idea but best of luck he is gorgeous!!
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    08-10-2012, 05:17 PM
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At 3 1/2, you can step up the under saddle work. Definitely actually start loping him and teaching him how to carry himself at the lope.

You ought to be able to move his body around any way you want. Forehand turns, pivots, sidepassing, two tracking, etc. You should start being able to push his shoulder around and his hip around when you are walking/jogging/loping.
Oh awesome! I'd love to move forward I just didn't want to "ruin" him so to say. I can move his hip at all gaits as well. And I've started getting him to move his shoulder over at a walk. He picked up on it quick so we'll work on getting it light before we move it up to the trot. He turns on his hind end at a standstill nicely.

I'm glad to know I can start loping him more because I have so many peole saying "No don't his knees aren't set yet at that age."(Although the major person saying that is a ~cough~ "friend" who has a 4 year old she can't lope because of leg problems and she doesn't want me getting ahead of her in my training ~immature~) His knees are closed(have been since I bought him) and the vet okayed it . I don't think he's going to have too much more growing up and moreso growing out because his parents were stocky and his mom was 15.1 dad was 15.2 and he's 15.1 right now.

His lope is def not near as balanced as I would like it to be working him more at a lope should fix that.

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I agree that at this age you can work on the canter to help balance and build up, but funnily enough I had this exact same discussion with my trainer in regards to my first young un today, same age as yours but Dubai and I have only been together a month.

As for sidepassing etc she said it depends on the horse and balance. If your horse can walk a straight line without relying on the school walls forwards and confidently then begin it but if you're still walking like a noodle keep working on forwards downwards. I am a dressage rider however so forwards downwards may not apply I have no idea but best of luck he is gorgeous!!
Thank you for the compliment hehe. He can definitely walk in a straight line we ride out in the middle of the pasture and I can walk, trot, and lope him in a straight line across the pasture. Haha I remember the days we moved around like a noodle they were fun at first but eventually it was like "Okay down to business" .


Thanks guys! Keep letting me know everything I can do! He's smart and gets stuff fast and he gets bored easy so the more lessons I can write up for him the better(yes I write up my lessons haha I'm a nerd) He's the first horse I've trained from the ground up(the others they already knew everything I just had to fix stuff =P)
     

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