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    06-14-2012, 02:01 AM
Have you tried not using contact when going into the canter?
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    06-14-2012, 03:06 AM
Since you have a chiro in regularly this has probably been addressed, but has saddle fit been checked recently? I'm always wary of "custom fit" saddles, as changes in the horse's topline and wear and tear on the saddle can change the fit. Why is the riser pad needed?

Back pain isn't always easy to identify, especially if it's minor discomfort with the saddle that is only bothersome with that one movement. This sounds to me like either a pain issue like that, or a rider issue. I agree with Sky, I'd see how he goes on a loose rein.
    06-14-2012, 03:57 AM
I had a green QH who used to do that but in every gait! He just done it out of pure excitement, it didnt effect our riding or anything just looked funny lol so I ignored it so he couldnt use it as an excuse to get out of anything and he just eventually got better.. If you can rule out all problems and it just comes down to him I would ignore it. Unless you hold your reins to heavy that could be another thing try holding the mane during canter as sky said. :)
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    06-15-2012, 08:20 PM
He's majorly ridden in a very loose rein, often even at the buckle simply because he doesn't need the hassle on his mouth, even sometimes, when we're being silly, have ridden in a halter with reins, so I don't think contact is the issue (he does it either way)
I've ridden him in different saddles to be sure that the fit isn't the issue, because I do have a saddle that I can't use on him because it pinches his withers, even with saddles that doing the chalk, and sweat mark testing, show chalk or sweat on all the right places, it doesn't seem to help.
He does have some minor back pain on occasion, and when that's the case, I give him a massage to relieve some of the knots in his back.
Could it be just a bad habit? Possibly. I know he often has a thing no matter what it is that he just does, so maybe this is his new thing? Who knows, I was just wondering if it was something else I hadn't thought of that could be causing this.
I ride in a riser pad with all my horses because it saves their backs over a long time-period. Less banging when posting, and for the unfortunate times you land heavy in your seat, it provides a little buffer to the painful pressure that's given. Its almost mandatory in my barn.
    06-15-2012, 08:28 PM
Originally Posted by The Greener Side    
He does have some minor back pain on occasion, and when that's the case, I give him a massage to relieve some of the knots in his back.

From what?
    06-15-2012, 08:58 PM
Is this horse ever ridden outside of an arena? On the trails where he can relax both mentally and physically?
    06-15-2012, 10:37 PM
The problem with riser pads is that they can affect the fit of the saddle and do more harm than good. When you check the fit do you check it with the riser pad?
    06-15-2012, 11:04 PM
His back pain normally comes from times where they're kept in the box due to bad weather, I try and let him roam in the indoor ring to stretch his legs and back during these times, but that can't always happen.
He hacks out at least once every couple of weeks, and often more than that
And yes, we've checked with the riser pad, that was one of the first things we checked :)
    06-15-2012, 11:12 PM
Yes it could be a bad habit. That is my guess as to the most likely cause.

I would suspect that he might do his transition better with more contact on a really mild bit. A big fat eggbutt snaffle sounds nice. Riding on the buckle allows a lot of head tossing.
    06-15-2012, 11:19 PM
My mare used to do this too. It was a combination of the fact that she was pretty green and not well balanced at the canter with someone on her back. I also changed her bit and it immediately went away. I switched from a single jointed bit to a double jointed and she stopped throwing her head.
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