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        09-12-2007, 07:28 PM
      #11
    Foal
    I think that if you won yesterday in the "argument" then yes, he probly has more respect for you now and that is a very good step in the right direction!!
         
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        09-12-2007, 07:31 PM
      #12
    Yearling
    He sounds like a very nice Horse Keith! I agree with sweety! A horse can't rear with its head to your knee.
         
        09-12-2007, 08:34 PM
      #13
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by keithturner
    That really does help because it makes alot of sense. I will definitely try this next time we go out. We did not get to ride today because of the rain.

    Something happened today for the first time since we brought him home. When we got home from my in-laws' house up the hill. I got out of my truck, in the rain, and whistled and called to Troy and he came running to me. He did not want attention from anyone but me. My question about this is, could what he and I went through with the fighting and him testing me yesterday given him a little more respect for me as a partner? THank you for your time.

    Aaaaaawwwwwww!! ;)
         
        09-12-2007, 08:47 PM
      #14
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Delregans Way
    He sounds like a very nice Horse Keith! I agree with sweety! A horse can't rear with its head to your knee.
    In case you have not seen a picture of him yet... this is our Troy. He is our first horse and I am learning. (note: the tight halter has been removed from him and we are going to do some research on different bits as I think this one may be too hard on him.)
         
        09-13-2007, 11:02 AM
      #15
    Foal
    You can bet on the fact that you have earned some respect from him now that you have asserted yourself.

    The horse you see in my avatar is Valentino, an OTTB gelding...now 6 years old. When we first took him from the rescue a year and a half ago, he was one of the nastiest animals.....he bit, bucked, reared, charged at you & had no intention of being taught any manners. Getting through to him was such a major accomplishment. I was boarding him with a "friend" who was afraid of him & almost constantly had me bordering re-homing him. I am so relieved I didn't.

    Once I got him out of there & home where I had access to him all hours of the day, I finally got the chance to put myself in the role of boss mare.....but that took quite some time. I had to be really tough on him to get his respect.....I mean making him run at a full gallop from one end of the arena to the other & back again several times when he ticked me off. A few times of this and he started to see a pattern emerge.....and after a while he stopped doing the "wrong" thing.

    Don't get me wrong.....he still tests me often to see if I am still worthy of the title....but he finds out immediately that I truly am ! I can honestly say that what he have is not a master/slave relationship.....but an communication of what is and is not acceptable. He follows me around like a lovesick puppy dog, and parks that huge 17 hh rump in my face for a scratch.

    The other night he was standing in front of our mare's stall and I was standing next to him on the outside....and our 4 month old foal was on the other side of me. I saw him pin his ears back & start to swing his head to lunge at either the mare of the foal, but when he swung toward me & realized he had forgotten I was there, you could see the panic in his eyes & he stopped dead. He knows if I am there at ALL, this kind of behavior will not be tolerated.

    It took a long time, and is still in practice, but my dominance over him brought about a respect I really thought I'd never see.

    Keep working at letting him know he is NOT in charge. He will come around......
         
        09-13-2007, 06:03 PM
      #16
    Foal
    Wow. That makes my experience so far sound like a brisk walk in the park on a cool spring morning.
         
        09-13-2007, 11:22 PM
      #17
    Weanling
    Ha, yeah well I am so glad Valentino, you tuned your gorgues horse around!! And Keith I hope you have good luck with your horse! Don't worrry it will come....
         
        09-14-2007, 08:58 AM
      #18
    Foal
    Thanks SweetyPie......it really was an interesting journey...

    I forgot to mention that this was also my first horse.....so you can imagine how difficult it was trying to get through his temper tantrums when you don't know the first thing about dealing with them. Once I got him out of that bad situation where he was boarding, I got my hands on some Clint Anderson training videos.....and from there I molded a psychotic horse into a real friend. But I am also a very strong, determined type person, so for me it was just a matter of time. After having him for a year and a half, I just started riding him 3 months ago after some neighbors broke him to a western saddle. But with the temps here being over 110 most of the summer, I don't have the heart to saddle him up & push him. Cooler weather is coming....and we will begin another segment of our personal journey.

    I have to really budget my time for I also have a mare who need a lot of work, a 4 month old colt who I work with daily & a senior twenty something QH. Talk about running the gamut of horse ownership within such a short time. A "crash course" would be an understatement...

    Keith....I apologize for taking over your thread. I was just trying to show you that almost any problem can be surmounted. The issues you have are very real, but they can be overcome....but it will take time and patience....and most of all an attitude from you that you are "boss mare" with your horse. If you run into any other issues that are difficult to deal with, try out the Clint Anderson training series. They worked wonders for me......

    I sincerely wish you the very best of luck with Troy....he is quite a beauty !



         
        09-14-2007, 06:18 PM
      #19
    Foal
    I really appreciate that Valentino. You did not take over my thread. I was hoping for responses such as yours. Troy is our first horse but he is already broke, he is just testing to see how much he can get away with. I have been looking into some videos but they are expensive so I will have to save up. Thank you very much for the comment about Troy. My whole family has fallen in love with him. He is a really good horse, just a little rough on the attitude as far as testing us.
         
        09-14-2007, 07:02 PM
      #20
    Foal
    Some will test you continuously.....and this I will perpetually expect from Tino. Like Troy he is just one of those horses who do not want to give up their alpha status :)

    Since Troy is broke, then why don't you try a riding crop. Of course try it from the ground first. By that I mean try holding one as often as you can while you are working with him. Lead him and if he is not acting "quite" right give him a tap....and see how he reacts. Rub it all over him body & face while talking gently to him. If you longe him on a line, then move him out with a crop in your hand. Try getting him very used to seeing it, and associating it with doing what he is asked. He should respect it & not fear it.

    Tino is stunning too.....and deep down that is probably 30% of the reason we couldn't give up on him. He is beautiful & smart......just too much attitude at times

    A month or so ago I did a dumb thing......and I knew it was dumb when I did it. He and my mare had big sores in their mouths....and after a couple vet visits we found out it was from the barley hay. The quills got stuck in the soft tissue of their mouths & infected. The vet had to dig out all the quills. But at the time we didn't know what was causing them.....and since he was saddle broke so recently I didn't want to wait long before getting on him again. I decided against common sense to use just a halter & reins. I could sense he was annoyed at having his face pulled when I wanted turns.....and right after our little foal ran past the round pen, up he went...with me on him. I did an emergency dismount & luckily landed square on my feet....but boy was I ticked off. I made him canter around that round pen for 5 minutes straight. Next time he pulls that on me I will yank that gorgeous face to my knee before he can take another breath. He just caught me off guard, and at the time it made the most sense to get the heck off of there


    The very best of luck to you Keith, Troy & famiily....
         

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