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    03-27-2010, 01:25 PM
  #1
Yearling
Trail ride...

So, me and my friend are looking at possibly meeting up half way from her place, and riding to my place, this would be a relatively 'far' distance, by car it would take an hour and 4 minutes. But I am only meeting her half way.
If we were to do it.

Indigo is abit antsy, so I decided that I would take him for walks through our bushes before even attempting to ride him out of our property and on the roads. Because I would be bare back and if I got thrown.. well I would be abit in bad luck, since he is 16.2 HH and I can't throw myself onto a horse.

I want to take this slowly with him, and get him used to walking through these area's. This would be a good practice for him if I did take him, and I would strictly stay at a walk, or a trot if he behaves.

I may ask my friend who I am buying stuff off of, if she could lend me the girth and the saddle pad and such, and if they don't work out than I will send them back with my brother or for when she can come back out.. so I could take my saddle.

Any idea's to get him used to this ? I would probably have till Monday, I am worried though that she will come on Monday, and than she will leave on Tuesday.. but on Tuesday there is a 60% shower's which I know she doesnt have to much of a problem with,and last time it was supposed to rain it didnt... so ?

She does have a cellphone anyways too.. so any ideas ?

Indigo is really good, other than the head throwing, and I slowly started taking him through bushes... my house is right beside the highway and we ride close to traffic, but I still am afraid about cars riding right up beside him, but the road we would be on would be very dead for traffic.

Considering he is an OTTB, I am abit worried, and I have told my friend my horse might not be ready for this, because it would be a big step for him, and I have to think about my safety, and HIS safety most of all.

*cookies if you read this*
     
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    03-27-2010, 01:36 PM
  #2
Green Broke
You realize that an hour in a car is about 100 kilometers right? Which means if you are meeting her halfway, you are saying you are going to ride 100 kilometers - 50km to meet her and 50km back. I think you're kidding yourself if you think you can do even 10km bareback - or heck, even in a saddle much less. I've ridden distance before, and if you're not used to it, you're going to be sobbing in agony.

This ride will also take, literally, all day if not longer if you are walking. I think it's a pretty foolish endeavour to consider on an unfit horse of extremely questionable training. How are you going to take supplies with you?
     
    03-27-2010, 01:40 PM
  #3
Banned
I got as far as the Bareback part and gave up. This is a joke if you think you can ride 60 miles bareback and have to ask advice on the forum.
You can not do it. Give it up.
     
    03-27-2010, 01:41 PM
  #4
Yearling
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Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj    
You realize that an hour in a car is about 100 kilometers right? Which means if you are meeting her halfway, you are saying you are going to ride 100 kilometers - 50km to meet her and 50km back. I think you're kidding yourself if you think you can do even 10km bareback - or heck, even in a saddle much less. I've ridden distance before, and if you're not used to it, you're going to be sobbing in agony.

This ride will also take, literally, all day if not longer if you are walking. I think it's a pretty foolish endeavour to consider on an unfit horse of extremely questionable training. How are you going to take supplies with you?
Yes I realize this, and it is just an option, and something I am willing to consider, not going to take it seriously, If I can't do it, than my friend is willing to ride all the way here.
I can do along way bareback.. I have ridden distance before too, I have ridden a whole day before and I know how it would feel after, and I know what the consequences might be.

If I were to take anything with me, I will have a back pack on me, I might not even have to meet her half way, and I did suggest leaving very early.

If we can figure out how to make it work if possible, than give it a shot, but I in know way plan on pushing my horse hard or even taking up the offer, to do the impossible. I am looking for my horses best interests.
     
    03-27-2010, 01:43 PM
  #5
Yearling
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Originally Posted by RiosDad    
I got as far as the Bareback part and gave up. This is a joke if you think you can ride 60 miles bareback and have to ask advice on the forum.
You can not do it. Give it up.
i am not asking for advice hence on the trail ride part, I am asking about how to get Indigo used to Bush in my back yard, it would be something I would do later, riding through my back yard and such.
So the question would pop up later.

I told my friend specifically I do not think my horse is ready for this.

In no way do I plan on actually doing this 'expedition'

I did tell her that it might be better if she just went and got a ride here and spent the night and we went riding.

I do think it is a far way, and I don't completely think it is a good idea, it is far, my horse might spook, and I am not ready to take him that far. Which is why I posted, yes I am looking for critizism and bad feedback if you must ask lol. Because I agree 100%

And if a person where to walk, it would take a whole 9 hours. Most of our day.. There isnt much point at this moment.

But I told her wait for another time maybe because my horse is to unfit for it. And so forth.


BUT THE MAIN THING I WAS ASKING.. I would like to get him used to riding through the trails... ANY idea's.
I don't have to ride that distance for trails, hell my back yard is trails ! And I have a hay field to ride through.
     
    03-27-2010, 01:54 PM
  #6
Banned
I have rode 60 miles on a fit horse and I have had lots of experience on 50 milers. Even I found the 60 miles long. Now I didn't have a nice trail or road so that makes it alot easier but I had backup.. If anything happened to the horse any of the vet stops would have transported him back to the home base. You are running alone so if the horse goes lame you are screwed, no trail, no way of getting him home.
I also really hope you are not even considering running BAREFOOT on the road all that way???
At the very minmum you need a good saddle. You have to keep up a steady trot, mile after mile, hours on end to even consider covering the distance in 8-10 hours of trotting time. A horse trots comfortably at 8 mph.
I train my horses for years runing 50 plus miles every week to get them ready for their 50 mile runs and again I am fit, experienced with a fit horse and I would think seriously about a run like that.
What does you friend expect to do after getting to your place?? Go for a ride the next day and then what?? Ride back home again???
Your friend , has she ever run a 50 mile endurance race?? Does she have experience?? How about her horse??
Give us an idea of your age, her age???
     
    03-27-2010, 01:58 PM
  #7
Banned
I have baby sat many a person through their first 50, people that are training 25 miles saturday, 25 miles sunday and then 12 tuesday and 12 thursday for months on end and watched them break down on a 50. Mature ladies crying at 40 miles, saying they can't do it and yet they have all that conditioning, they have me holding their hands and yet they still break down??? It is not unusal and I talk them through it, joke with them. Set an example. Who do you have to hold your hand???
You need to seriously reconsider this , as does your friend.
     
    03-27-2010, 01:59 PM
  #8
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by RiosDad    
I have rode 60 miles on a fit horse and I have had lots of experience on 50 milers. Even I found the 60 miles long. Now I didn't have a nice trail or road so that makes it alot easier but I had backup.. If anything happened to the horse any of the vet stops would have transported him back to the home base. You are running alone so if the horse goes lame you are screwed, no trail, no way of getting him home.
I also really hope you are not even considering running BAREFOOT on the road all that way???
At the very minmum you need a good saddle. You have to keep up a steady trot, mile after mile, hours on end to even consider covering the distance in 8-10 hours of trotting time. A horse trots comfortably at 8 mph.
I train my horses for years runing 50 plus miles every week to get them ready for their 50 mile runs and again I am fit, experienced with a fit horse and I would think seriously about a run like that.
What does you friend expect to do after getting to your place?? Go for a ride the next day and then what?? Ride back home again???
Your friend , has she ever run a 50 mile endurance race?? Does she have experience?? How about her horse??
Give us an idea of your age, her age???
Yes I do know this ,and again I will tell you, that this is something I am not going to take seriously, because I probably wont want to do it, I have seriously told my friend my horse is not ready, and I Am not ready.
Because my horse is an OTTB , I am not comfortable even considering him on the trails.
I wouldnt know what she would expect, it wasn't my plan in the first place.
No she doesnt do competions. I am not obliged to answer those questions, I do not know about her new horse, personally age isnt much of a factor. I know what would happen, the consequences and I have plainly refused to this.

But I am not getting the answer to what I am asking -.-
     
    03-27-2010, 02:01 PM
  #9
Yearling
And riosdad I do respect you very much, you are alot of help and again, I am telling you I have Refused to do this ride.

My horse isnt ready for it, I am not ready for it.

But my main question is, how will I condition him for the trails so he doesnt get spooky. Just for my back yard, for small trail rides? This is a question not even related to my friends request.
     
    03-27-2010, 02:20 PM
  #10
Green Broke
Keep doing what you're doing. Nothing but short rides will get him used to it.

As a note - your friend attempting to ride this is a joke as well. The winning time for a 50 mile endurance ride last year was 6.5 hours. That's a horse in top physical condition that is trotting and cantering almost the ENTIRE way. We did a 15 miler trotting and it took us almost 3 hours. The Tevis Cup is a gruelling 100 mile endurance ride, and it is a 24 hour race. I realize it's through mountains, but if your friend is walking and jogging, she will NOT be able to complete a 100km ride within 24 hours and still have a sound horse. The idea is the height of insanity, and unless she's a top endurance rider, she's going to cripple her horse. If she walks, it will take her 3 days. If she doesn't, she will lame her horse.
     

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