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post #11 of 17 Old 10-07-2012, 03:26 AM
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<shrugs> what's the problem with just removing the divider and turn the horse around and walking it forward out?

My horse kicked out the other day and was kicked back in return. I know this goes against others morals, but it's just fine with me. However I am soft when it comes to an easy fix and just go with it.
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post #12 of 17 Old 10-07-2012, 08:18 AM
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...However I am soft when it comes to an easy fix and just go with it.
Yeah, I tend to be that way myself, saving the "fight" for something worthwhile. Could be because I'm getting older and my new mantra is to Work Smarter Not Harder.

As for the OP, I do believe a horse can be that stubborn and simply not move and not be afraid-I own one just like that . When I first got my appy he was so stubborn and sour (former riding string horse) he would simply stop when he wanted to and no amount of normal aids/kicking/ rein flipping etc would make him move. He was totally relaxed and unafraid with me on his back growling and flailing at him. He was like a 16 hand rock until I figured out it wasn't a lack of training, it was simply stubborness. It took a lot of consistent work, but he is much better now.
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the reason for not taking out the divider and insisting on the back is because of the fact that removing the divider is not an option in all trailers. You never know what situation you might be in and I do believe it is important for a horse to go off any trailer.

Dag gone stubborn horse!
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post #14 of 17 Old 10-08-2012, 11:01 AM
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Ok this is something you can try it can be a little time consuming but if your patient it works. My yearling jet is afraid to get out of my trailer he will hop in all day but he won't get out. Now I have a slant but I don't see why you can't do it in a straight. The only way to get Jet out is backing him so I put pressure on his rope halter and ask him to back, when he takes a step back or two I release, I pat him say good boy then repeat pressure a step or two release. It takes a bit sometimes but he improves and gets out the trailer faster each time. I do one session at a time since he is a yearling, but I think just one session a day that ends in a you did good call it done is best for big horses as well. That way the reward is I got out and we are done.
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post #15 of 17 Old 10-08-2012, 11:18 AM
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Got through the first half of CA's trailer loading video, and based on his explanations, there are only 2 reasons a horse has trailer issues 1) fear 2) lack of respect. One of those is always present, and sometimes both.

From the explanations, it sounds like a lack of respect for sure in this case. By that I mean you are asking her to back off the trailer, and she is ignoring you. THAT is a lack of respect.

CA bases everything off of his ground work videos. Basically, if your horse doesn't have respect and trust from good ground manners, forget about handling them in the trailer.

So, since this mare's distinct problem seems to be backing, you can try to work on that specifically. Not necessarily with the trailer, but with ground work. Can you back her endlessly around yard just by glaring (with your active body) at her shoulder/chest? (No stick, no pressure on the lead, just your body language) You can work on this for 5-10 minutes every day, for something related to trailer loading training, without actually stressing her out with the trailer. The key idea here is that she becomes SO solid with your cue to ask her to back up that she shouldn't think twice about where she happens to be, if that so happens to be in the trailer, she should still back up and respect your cue.

Easier said than done, of course.

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post #16 of 17 Old 10-08-2012, 09:04 PM
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I am by no means a trainer or an expert, but will she back into the trailer? I just remember an old friend that had a mare that they had to back into their trailer because she would not back off.

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^^Now there's an example of lateral thinking!
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