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    07-05-2012, 06:23 PM
  #11
Weanling
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Originally Posted by verona1016    
I'm a trailer noob, and have only ever loaded into a slant load, so this might be a dumb question... are there tie rings outside the window?

Whenever I trailer with my trainer I always pass the lead rope through the window bars and she ties it (like the pic rascalboy posted) to the tie rings out there. The horse can't reach it, and if he starts panicking you can release it pretty quickly from outside.
Tying like that is fine when the trailer is not moving…but deadly if it is. If the tail of that rope does come undone and catches on the tires while moving, you'll have SERIOUS problems.
     
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    07-05-2012, 06:47 PM
  #12
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Originally Posted by verona1016    
I'm a trailer noob, and have only ever loaded into a slant load, so this might be a dumb question... are there tie rings outside the window?

Whenever I trailer with my trainer I always pass the lead rope through the window bars and she ties it (like the pic rascalboy posted) to the tie rings out there. The horse can't reach it, and if he starts panicking you can release it pretty quickly from outside.
i guess I could but isn't that a bit dangerous if the knot comes undone somehow??
     
    07-05-2012, 06:49 PM
  #13
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Originally Posted by jaydee    
If I'm understanding the layout of your trailer then have you tried tying him from both sides of his head - a bit like cross ties in a barn?
I use quick release fastenings on the ropes in my trailer that I just clip the horses on to when they load and then remove the lead rope - saves all the knots and in an emergency they unfasten easily
I hate those things on normal lead ropes though!!
i could but wont that double the chance of him getting caught or has this been done by others before.
     
    07-06-2012, 08:24 AM
  #14
Showing
When your horse tries to turn in the trailer, he's either looking for a way out, or his buddy. Try leaving him in for just a few minutes then unload, repeating three or four times for that many days, gradually extending his time in there. Why not load the other horse at times as well?
     
    07-06-2012, 08:48 AM
  #15
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Will try saddlebag.

Tried loading denny in with him but jessie started to go under chest bar when he started in so will just focus on moving jessie in and out.
     
    07-06-2012, 09:08 AM
  #16
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I'm being a thickie, and still don't understand the problem. I have a two horse straight load. There are two tie rings at the front, on the wall to the outer side of the horses head, about 6 inches higher than the height of a 16 hand horse's head. I use the quick release trailer ties and take off the lead rope.

So if I have a horse in that is likely to have a go at it's travelling companion, I adjust the tie length, and clip it from the head collar to the tie ring. It's long enough for the horse to eat from the hay net in front, and short enough to prevent him from getting head under breast bar, or annoy neighbour. The safe release tie doesn't have any loose ends for him to grab, and it's not floppy enough for him to grab and eat.
     
    07-06-2012, 09:32 AM
  #17
Green Broke
Tell me if I've got this right. You are getting your horse used to being in the trailer but won't tie them solid in case they flip out.

Does your horse tie normally without flipping out? If not, then that's what you really need to work on. If they do, I think you could be causing them to flip out when you do need to trailer them. You need to be consistent with them. You can't let them have their head loose while practicing and then tied solid when you need to trailer them. If they load and stand in there fine, tie them off and close the door. Let them be for a few seconds and then let them out. As you practice that, slowly increase the time they're in the trailer.

If you are thinking that they will flip out, you are probably acting nervous and will make them nervous. Act like everything is normal and they will be less likely to be nervous. If they do flip out, I guess they flip out. It might happen but don't panic.
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    07-06-2012, 09:49 AM
  #18
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Originally Posted by Shropshirerosie    
I'm being a thickie, and still don't understand the problem. I have a two horse straight load. There are two tie rings at the front, on the wall to the outer side of the horses head, about 6 inches higher than the height of a 16 hand horse's head. I use the quick release trailer ties and take off the lead rope.

So if I have a horse in that is likely to have a go at it's travelling companion, I adjust the tie length, and clip it from the head collar to the tie ring. It's long enough for the horse to eat from the hay net in front, and short enough to prevent him from getting head under breast bar, or annoy neighbour. The safe release tie doesn't have any loose ends for him to grab, and it's not floppy enough for him to grab and eat.

Haha its ok I want to figure out the right way to get him to tie in there so he can't turn towards his buddy and can't go under the chest bar.

The haynets and the rings are at the front center of the trailer just above the non adjustable window. Which is at eye height for my the horse to see out. The tie off rings for them are on the sides of the trailer just beyond the front side doors.

He was on the left side so I tied on his left with the haynet in front of him. I orignally didn't tie him because it was the first time loading him about 6 months. No issues so decided after 5 minutes or so to tie him with the standard release knot with the end of the lead wrapped four times as I went out to bring the other horse in to load with him. I noticed he had already had the knot undone by the time I walked 2nd horse around to load. So I bring other horse back around and tie him to outside of trailer once again.

Go back in hook jessie to the trailer tie with the safety release clips. The length of the trailer tie only permits to reach haynet however they are of stretchy material. So as I turn around I notice him going to itch his chest with his mouth so I turned my back to go bring second horse in again thinking oh he is just scratching his chest which still is above where the bar was. So I think no possible problem can happen so I walk out to get 2nd horse and load him and as soon as his hooves hit the trailer floor jessies head somehow went under the bar. So I backed out 2nd horse (thankfully a very good loader) and left him while I quickly undid jessie.

Let him stand there for a second. Then re haltered him and let him stand in there again for a few minutes. Caught other horse tied him to trailer then unloaded jessie. Then tied him to outside of trailer while I did one load and unload work with second horse.

Then left it at that because I am unsure as to how to restrict his head without freaking him out so that when I am actually trailering him I don't have to worry about his head going where its not suppose to. Biggest fear is him getting his head stuck again.
     
    07-06-2012, 10:08 AM
  #19
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Originally Posted by usandpets    
Tell me if I've got this right. You are getting your horse used to being in the trailer but won't tie them solid in case they flip out.

Does your horse tie normally without flipping out? If not, then that's what you really need to work on. If they do, I think you could be causing them to flip out when you do need to trailer them. You need to be consistent with them. You can't let them have their head loose while practicing and then tied solid when you need to trailer them. If they load and stand in there fine, tie them off and close the door. Let them be for a few seconds and then let them out. As you practice that, slowly increase the time they're in the trailer.

If you are thinking that they will flip out, you are probably acting nervous and will make them nervous. Act like everything is normal and they will be less likely to be nervous. If they do flip out, I guess they flip out. It might happen but don't panic.
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yeap he ties solid fine. However he is part blind. So when he is outside he can still see a good amount and wont fuss. I am hestiant to tie him in the trailer because of his eyesight. If he feels paniced or trapped he is more likely to react in a negative manner . I can't load his buddy first because he needs the extra room to get in comfortably but when I load the second guy it seems to startle him which caused the head drop and under chest bar action.

I never tie them sold in the trailer they are always on the trailer tie when moving. My complications come into play with his blindness..

I expect him to do everything the other horses can do I just don't want to set off on a road trip to whereever need be with him and come back to trailer with him choking himself. :/
     
    07-06-2012, 10:31 AM
  #20
Green Broke
Hmm, I guess my trainer has been tying the horses unsafely the whole time I guess I'll be ordering a trailer tie to use when my horse is being transported, since I'm not tall enough to slip the lead rope through the inside tie ring, and I don't want to risk something preventable happening to my horse!

It sounds like the real problem is that the trailer tie is stretchy, making it impossible for you to get it set to the right length. Is it standard for them to be a bit stretchy? This trailer tie looks pretty good with two different safety release mechanisms: Tie-Safe Ties - Cross Ties & Trailer Ties from SmartPak Equine

Is he blind in just one eye (which side?) or part blind in both eyes? If it's just one eye, then having the good eye towards the inside of the trailer seems like the best option to me.
     

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