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post #11 of 33 Old 02-08-2011, 10:21 PM
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Gizmo does the same thing! I think it is the shavings too. I only use them during the winter time for extra warmth for him in his stall, but he goes pee in there and it sucks because they are expensive and they have to be cleaned out a lot when he does that. But he doesn't go outside, ever since I put the min there. My other two ideas on it is the he doesn't like to let "it" out in the cold, lol. Or he knows that it will turn to ice and make his paddock icy. But I feel your pain for sure.

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post #12 of 33 Old 02-08-2011, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj View Post
You'd be surprised. If given the chance, most horses will actually prefer to keep their waste away from their food and sleeping quarters, we just don't typically allow them the opportunity or the space to do so.

My grandpa used to be SO mad because we had a 10 acre pasture by the house and the horses chose the corner absolutely closest to the house to do all their dirty work. Grass that grows back on top of feces tastes terrible and horses won't eat it - so when given enough room, they WILL create a "potty". You could find the occasional pile out in the pasture, but they pretty much all came up front to pee and poop.

As for actually training them to do so, I imagine it could be done with a LOT of work. Probably more work than it's worth! They have seeing eye horses now, and from what I understand they are trained to request to be let out to do their business so it IS possible.
My horses have a almost 3acre pasture, i had JUST put hay out and i watched my mare pee right in the hay, i could not believe it, she could have at least walked 10 steps before peeing!
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As for training I would imagine you would train a horse to pee in a certain place the same way you would train a dog. Lots of praise and good things when its outside, no response when its inside.
I guess no one does it cause it's not worth the effort?

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I had a family member who swore that if you matted the stall with no bedding the horses would only pee outside because the mats would cause it to splash up on their legs.

I have no idea if she was right or not. Both her and my horse never peed or pooped in their matted, unbedded stalls but they had HUGE runs and unless it was pouring on their heads or unbelievably cold, they never went into their stalls.
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I just want to add that cold weather is really not an issue here in South Florida.

I can't imagine training a horse to pee and poop outside like you would a dog...I mean, a dog poops twice a day, and I let my dogs out a minimum of 3 times a day to pee. Horses poop...what would you say, about 10 times a day? And probably pee that much, too?

Ok, I am considering keeping bedding out of the stall. Like I said, I do that for the minis, but they rarely go in their stall and never really did (I did have shavings in there at one point), whereas this mare seems to like her stall, so I feel it might be a little mean to keep it bare. I will decide, but thanks to everyone for their comments and input!
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Originally Posted by Rachel1786 View Post
My horses have a almost 3acre pasture, i had JUST put hay out and i watched my mare pee right in the hay, i could not believe it, she could have at least walked 10 steps before peeing!

I cared for a horse once who did the same thing. I never saw that horse eat a bite before peeing on its hay first. It makes me think that maybe there was a deficiency in his diet and the pee helped him get what he needed or he was just weird....

As for getting a horse to pee out side..... the only thing I can think of is to remove the shavings and see if that has any effect. Most horses will grow thick winter coats and not need to be in stalls. I would leave her the option of going in but I don't think the shavings have much effect if she is aloud to come and go as she pleases.

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Originally Posted by MacabreMikolaj View Post
You'd be surprised. If given the chance, most horses will actually prefer to keep their waste away from their food and sleeping quarters, we just don't typically allow them the opportunity or the space to do so.
No one told any of the horses I know this.

I have one very neat horse who makes his manure all in one big pile.

MFM tends to make a huge pile of manure too, but her pile is right under her hay bag. Not the actions of a horse that is trying to keep her waste away from her food, considering the door to her paddock is wide open an she can manure outside or in any other spot in her stall.

BF is just a slob. And like was described by others, is more than willing to manure and pee right on her hay. I do not think this is a lack of something in her diet either. She is the type that soils her food and then has a complete hissy fit that her food is ruined.

I cleaned stalls for years to pay my board. I would say there are far more horses who are slobs and do not care where they manure (in relationship to their feed) than there are horses that do care.
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My horse pees and poops in the corner of the stalls. She also pees and poops in the corners of the paddock as well. She's picky about where she goes.
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The mare I show's owner taught her to pee on command, and has her do it before she goes in her stall.

I kid you not.

I'm a little afraid of parking her out at a show now...
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post #20 of 33 Old 02-09-2011, 12:37 PM
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If you give a horse a litter box, they will likely use it. I don't use shavings in my lean-to shelter, so my boys pee out in the open. They all pee in generally the same area (easy to tell with all of the snow).

The vet I used to work for would have me run the hose out to the pasture and let it make splashing noises before the horses came in. The noise of running water made several of them pee. If we didn't do this, the horses would go to their stalls and pee before eating, so we knew that they had to go already.

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