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        08-22-2010, 12:32 AM
      #1
    Yearling
    To train or not to train

    I'm really on the fence about if I should get Divo broke to ride or not, especially since it's almost September already. He's five years old, plenty of ground work and what not, I feel that I could ride him myself but am afraid I'd ruin him. I know of a good trainer that charges $300 for 30 days, I've heard nothing but positive reviews about her and she's relatively close.

    Should I just work with him myself, and possibly ride him? I can lean all over him and hang on his butt and back on a daily basis. I haven't sat on him, just laid my upper body weight on him, rubbed him all over, picked up his feet, etc. both in the pasture and out. He looovvveessss butt scratches.

    Or should I send him to the trainer? I really worry about sending him off, since he's a definite 'keeper'. It's the same with Loki, I could enjoy him a LOT more, especially on trails, but I refuse to have him trained and ridden by someone else. Call me selfish, but he's my truly special boy

    Orrr...should I wait until spring, THEN send him off to the trainer for a month? I fear if I send him now, IF I send him at all, that winter would then promptly roll around and he wouldn't be ridden for a few months.


    Thoughts? Suggestions?
         
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        08-22-2010, 01:37 AM
      #2
    Weanling
    My vote: Spring, with lots of groundwork/playing/messing with/training by you until then.
         
        08-22-2010, 03:27 AM
      #3
    Trained
    Hmmm I'd send him now. $300 for 30 days is BRILLIANT value, as long as you've heard all good things about this trainer, I'd certainly go ahead and send him. Once he's broken, you'll get a few good rides in before winter, and then it will be good for him to be turned out for a couple of months, then brought back in after winter. I wouldn't leave it much longer for breaking, 5 is getting on quite a bit as far as breaking goes.
         
        08-22-2010, 03:29 AM
      #4
    Weanling
    I'd vote for Spring as in my experience most people don't keep up the work through the winter on a greenie. Not saying you'd be like that but that's just my two cents. I'd also be sending him off to a trainer.
         
        08-22-2010, 03:00 PM
      #5
    Showing
    I would personally get him started now with 30 days. I wonder about the trainer though, $300 seems incredibly cheap, especially with feed prices like they are now. Do you know, does she just train horses or is it more like an after-work supplement to her income? Either way, I guess if you know her and know how she trains, then it doesn't matter. By getting him trained now, then you would still have him rideable for the remainder of the nice days before winter. Then, if you keep him going as often as weather allows this winter, you can either choose to send him back for a refresher/finishing course in the spring or if you get along well with him, just continue on yourself.
         
        08-22-2010, 03:18 PM
      #6
    Foal
    I vote for sending him off now. I know it is hard. I just got my two back. I did miss them while they were gone, but it was good for them to get off the property and have someone else working with them. I visited them on a regular basis and the trainer that I worked with encouraged me to ride with him. It worked out perfectly. They still need a little more work but we are making good progress.

    One thing I have on my side is having long summers. I live in Texas so riding season lasts a bit longer here.

    Good luck with your decision!
         
        08-22-2010, 03:51 PM
      #7
    Started
    I'd gain knowledge of the trainer by watching her train other horses first. If you like her training, then I'd send him to her now, for reasons posted by others. I'd not worry about the low price--if she's good, that's a bonus.
         
        08-22-2010, 11:18 PM
      #8
    Trained
    Hi,

    Agree with Northern for starters, that I'd want more than just good reviews from others before trusting someone with my horse. I'd want to see her work with other horses and see her work with my own first.

    If you're not sure of what you're doing, then I agree that it is best to get professional help rather than doing it all yourself. BUT depending on your ability you might want to get a trainer to *help you* rather than take the horse & do the whole job themselves. Firstly, you'll learn a heap, you'll further develop your relationship with your horse, and you will know exactly what he is learning & how to cue certain things, rather than having to learn how he's been trained separately.

    I don't see a problem with training older horses - just because the majority of horses are probably started prior to 5yo doesn't make leaving them any more difficult. I also don't have a problem with the horse having little work after being started, as he may have over winter. Of course, the more he gets to practice the 'right' behaviour, the quicker it will become solid for him, but that will happen over time, be it with weeks in between or more intensively. I don't believe there's a benefit to 'turning a horse away' after training, but I also don't believe, that if they're well trained in the first place, that they lose it if not worked regularly afterwards. Just as explained, the less that's done, the longer they'll take to learn it solidly.
         
        08-24-2010, 11:12 AM
      #9
    Green Broke
    I'd work with him yourself now, then send him off to the trainer in the spring.

    Work on lunging and ground driving him so he learns the voice commands for walk, trot, canter, and whoa. Ground driving at the walk and trot will get him used to things slapping his sides. Have a saddle on him when you drive and lunge. Once he's good on the ground, saddle him up and get on. Have a friend lead him around with you on him. Pet him, talk to him, lightly bump his sides with your legs, etc. Once he's good there, put the bridle on him over his halter. Have your friend lead while you practice turning and stopping him with the bridle. Your leader should be passive, just there as a backup. If he/she is up to it, have them jog next to the horse while you practice walk/trot transitions. If you get some nice walk/trot with a leader in, then you're all set to really "ride" him on your own! (in the arena or round pen of course )

    The more work you can do now, the farther he'll be along when you do send him to the trainers.
         
        08-24-2010, 02:04 PM
      #10
    Trained
    Send him now and keep him there until the weather gets better on the spring. That would give him a good 6 months pro training. Then along with that go and ride him there with the trainer and get a good idea of what is going on. Then once you bring him home in the spring he should be going very well under saddle and you can decide if you want to keep him in training and show him or if not you should have a very solid horse to play with.

    30 days no matter when you send him is not enough time to get even a well started horse. I would not wast my time or money sending a horse for any less then 4 months.
         

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