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    05-14-2013, 06:31 PM
Trainer Incentive Program(TIP)

I was just curious if anyone has participated in this program. For those that don't know it is a program where trainers gentle Mustangs and find adoptors for the BLM. In return they are paid. I think they have a total of 180 days to do this or the horse goes back to the BLM.

Just kind of interested and curious for info from someone that may have been part of it.
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    05-14-2013, 06:57 PM
I looked into it once and the problem I had with it is, you don't get paid until you place the mustang. A mustang would be pretty hard to place in my area. So I'd probably spend all the money I would be paid in feeding the mustang while I tried to place it.
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    05-14-2013, 07:00 PM
I was kind of curious what happened if you couldn't find a home for it after the work you put into it.
    05-14-2013, 07:02 PM
I would assume you have to return it to the BLM since it's technically their horse. If I recall correctly you have a window of time that the horse has to be placed or it has to be returned. I may be wrong about that and it may have changed, I just saw too many problems with the program to participate.
    05-14-2013, 07:10 PM
Ya, as I read you have to have the horse a minimum of 10 days and no longer than 180 days. It does go back to the BLM after that.Just kind of curious what happens after the 180 days and the horse goes back. My guess is you ae out your time, costs of feed and upkeep, vet bills if needed. That kind of stuff. You know the stuff that could add up real quick.
    05-14-2013, 07:13 PM
Yes, exactly. I wouldn't do any kind of business with the BLM anyway, personally. It gets hurt or dies you have to have a vet out and submit paperwork...there's close to, if not more than 300 bucks right there.
    05-14-2013, 11:00 PM
I think its a good program if you have a someone lined up already to purchase the horse. Otherwise, I don't think its a program that you should use to make money. I also think that's pretty reasonable for them to want a vet report if the horse gets hurt or dies. People do shady things with mustangs and they have to do their work that first year. The bad PR they get now would only be worse if they were found to be selling on the table to kill pens. I know there is a lot of debate and they are often accused of all manner of horrible things. At the end, its a program that is sometimes bound by the fact that its associated with the feds.

That said, I would not get a BLM horse expecting to make money on it. If you want one (I do) than do it because you want the experience, or the "breed". Making money in horses is a loosing game to start with.
    05-14-2013, 11:08 PM
Ya, best case scenario you'll make like 600 bucks per horse. Deffinately not a money maker. I was kind of looking at it as a good way to get a steadier supply of horses to start and gentle to improve even more. It's tough to really get good starting a horse only once or twice a year. If it ended up paying for itself so much the better.
    05-16-2013, 07:07 PM
The only way it works well is for the trainer to have the horse placed before he starts. The only guy I know that does it and makes money off of it, finds the owner ( or they find him ) they go to an adoption site, the owner picks his horse and then he steps in and signs a TIP contract. So the owner gets a mustang with x number of days training free, and the trainer gets a check fro the BLM. Its a win win, but as stated not necessarily a money making proposition.
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    05-18-2013, 04:24 PM
I heard the TIP program was on hold until October - so BLM won't pay out for any more horses to be gentled and placed..

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