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    06-10-2010, 10:04 PM
Trainer issues?

OK so I bought Dozer a little less than a year ago. I bought him fully aware of his issues, his owners were nice and gave me a great deal and they didnt try to hide anything! I use to blame them for his problems because that's what my trainer did. She always said how they trained him bad but really, they trained him how they wanted him and he served his purpose good.

His main problem is running away with me. If he gets bored he makes up an object to spook at and takes off running. He braces his neck so it is close to impossible for me to stop him if he doesn't want to be stopped. I mean I am only 105lbs and he is an 18.2hh draft!

Well, my main issue with my trainer is that she always has a 'quick fix' to stop Dozer's problem. Sometimes it is oh just make him disengage his rear a lot and he wont do it again. Another day it could be flexing his neck then next week its his back up. Well, what is it!? She only does Parelli and that is all she teaches... I don't want to fire her because she is a family friend and I would feel bad. I have trained Dozer more by myself than with her helping me. She is unclear and yells at me when I don't understand... I taught him leg cues and to stay on the rail while in motion then I traded him with my cousin to help her with her horse for one week and everything went away. We are getting it back pretty good now.

So my question, what do I work on with him? His backs are pretty good, most of the time I just lift the reins or wiggle my feet while saying back and he goes willingly. He is kind of lazy but will go if I ask, he stops when I say whoa or lift a rein. What is his problem? How do I keep his mind busy so that he doesn't get bored and run? He is kind of pushy so what do I do for that?

Thank you to anyone who took the time to read this and extra thanks to those who answer!

Thank you!
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    06-10-2010, 10:09 PM
Send him to me, that should fix the issue :]
    06-10-2010, 10:22 PM
I think the next time he takes off, stay on if you can and then when he wants to stop make him runs some more, all night if you feel like it, till YOU want to stop, and then just keep doing that every time he tries to run with you.

Also, if you were an active rider and giving him something to think about, he would not be able to make things up to spook at :)
    06-10-2010, 10:23 PM
Originally Posted by wild_spot    
Send him to me, that should fix the issue :]
Hey, way too expensive!
    06-10-2010, 10:48 PM
Well...personally I don't have much faith in anything Parelli, but that is just my personal feelings.

However, if your trainer is not doing it for you and you don't feel like you are accomplishing anything and solving problems, family friend or not, you NEED to get out and find a new trainer. I have learned from experience that a horse's well being and your progression as a rider with your horse is more important than coddling the feelings of a family friend.
    06-10-2010, 10:50 PM
^exactly. If she's not helping you, she's not doing you or your riding any good, and you should find a trainer who works better with you.
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    06-11-2010, 01:00 AM
I can stay on fine and all so I will run him next time until I want to stop... The reason he makes things up is because my trainer will say just walk so I have to listen to her because if I don't and something goes wrong than its all my fault... If I was the person who is the 'owner' and 'payer' then I would definitely switch...

No thanks I will just keep Dozer here :)
    06-11-2010, 04:56 AM
Use the 6stride rule to keep his mind busy. Either do circles make a transition, change gait speed etc anythting to keep his mind busy
    06-11-2010, 07:14 AM
I am just surprised that you have found anyone in MD who does any NH! I am with the "keep running" group-make it harder (more unpleasant) when he misbehaves.......and, after all-as the owner of one of the drafty ones myself-they like to THINK they are really fast! Lol
    06-11-2010, 11:03 AM
OK, my trainer's hubby said he would take Dozer out to the Norco wash and make him run until he was done running away. They say once he does that he wont try it again. I figure wont hurt to try right?
I would do it myself but I am not familiar with the wash there(I live an hour away from it) and would hate to run him into a street or someone's yard...


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