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    12-23-2012, 08:00 PM
Again, if its never happened, check with a vet. Cold + joints don't seem to get along very well.

He could have had a nice frolic prior, and hurt himself. Something new has happened, and its causing him to buck. Horses just don't change their habits out of the blue for no reason.

If its not a health issue, could be a trainer issue. I'd not worry about confronting until a vet gives the a-ok that he's fine. If he's fine, then politely ask the trainer what she did. Again, improper warm up might have been it. And it could have just been that one time.

The trainer says he's never done it before, so I'm willing to bet its a health/cold issue.
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    12-23-2012, 10:23 PM
My pony is the sweetest on the ground and under saddle. I let him buck and get his energy out if he needs to. I would rather have him do it without me under saddle. He only does it every once in a while, but I've never once had him buck with me on him. Sometimes he just likes to play and get his energy out.
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    12-23-2012, 11:29 PM
Originally Posted by Elizabethan87    
So, I've trained my horse from the ground up and he is amazing... Very light in the mouth, rides in a hackamore, not spooky, well mannered and sensitive. With that being said... I sent him to a trainer to do some light finishing touches on him, thing I was getting to frustrated to do because of my lack of patience... Well. I went to go visit him after he'd been there almost 3 weeks, and she had him in the round pen and asked him to canter, he started bucking like crazy for at least 5 minutes straight. Would not stop. And she just let it happen. Just stood there waiting for him to get it out of his system! This is something he NEVER did before. He knows that when I am in his area, those feet don't come off the ground. Should I pull him out and bring him home??? I'm appalled she let him act this way with her in the pen with him, when I work with him and he brings those feet off the ground, I crack him on the butt with the whip! And he stops. That is a dangerous behavior, and can kill me or my children when he gets home!!!
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You said that he never bucked but yet you crack him for bringing his feet off the ground. Obviously at some point he has done it otherwise you wouldn't of had to reprimand him for his feet coming off the ground?
If he has, obviously you have kept in somewhat under control by reprimanding him and keeping him moving. Like others have said horses buck for certain reasons and knowing that reason is the key to fixing it.
Did you always gyp him around in a pen before getting on? I assumed your horse was a little older and further along in his training since you sent him for finishing rather than starting. If your trainer has been riding him and he was sent to simply finish she really shouldn't feel the need to gyp him before getting on, in my opinion. I think there is some information missing.
Also bucking for that long is not common, a horse has to be some kind of pissed, scared or hurting to buck for that length of time.
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    12-24-2012, 12:55 PM
I agree w poster cowchick, bucking for that long would get my attention.

In a round pen on the ground at liberty or on a line - I would think nothing of a young horse (I am assuming she is young) on a cool winter day bucking a few times at the start - and I certainly wouldn't reprimand them for it, but I would calmly keep them moving. But, bucking for five minutes? That is alarming and demands attention. THere are a lot of trainers out there and it doesn't require a license to "train". I would find one that had verifiable and reliable credentials and that I could get along with (i.e., clearly communicated an understandable and reasonable response to a question).
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    12-24-2012, 01:15 PM
The occasional "Yeah! I feel good!" Play jumps and bucks when you first get them started are okay. When they look like a bronco, then yes, something should be done to correct the behavior.

Did you ask the trainer why she let the horse do that? Did you communicate at all with the trainer over your concerns? You were right there after all.

I would address you concerns with the trainer and give her 30 days notice, unless there is improvement. There is nothing worse for a trainer than having a client call him/her up angry and say they are pulling their horses, especially when there were no communications prior.
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    12-24-2012, 06:24 PM
I can't help but wonder about the time - 5 min. A gal was teaching her horse to stand quietly and to gradually extend the time. One day without her knowledge I timed how long the mare stood before beginning to fuss. It was 35 seconds. Her owner thought it was several minutes. She began using a watch and realized how actual time and her perception of time was quite different.
    12-24-2012, 06:31 PM
If he is loose, out for free time, wants to run and buck that's fine. If you are in with him, he is tacked up, and bucks, he should not be allowed to buck.
I would give him free time first. Then get to work in the round pen. When he is out with free time, keep out of the pen.
    12-24-2012, 07:48 PM
When our trainer works any of our horse's and they start to act up, when she pushing the training, she will let them go. Let the horse spend the energy, they are doing the work and yes it might be to get out of working or they just might blow up. But I have never seen a 5min bucking fit. Our horse's act crazy, trainer pushes them to work harder. Runing, kicking, throwing there heads, bucking, but they finally, usually takes just a minute and they figure out it ain't doing them any good. Also I would not leave my horse anywhere that I can't watch and be involved in the training. Just my newbie 2 cents best of luck.
    12-24-2012, 08:29 PM
I'm wondering, if perhaps, a horse learning to work on a circle and is using new muscles...actually get muscle cramps? Maybe a reaction to cramping muscles like kicking out a charlie cramp?
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    12-24-2012, 10:05 PM
First of all, he's a horse. He will buck.
I tend to agree with riccil0ve. This is not a bad thing that the trainer is allowing the horse to buck. Find out the reason for the bucking, and discuss with the trainer her philosophy about it. It's not fair to anyone to jump to conclusions. You might learn something, or at least come to an agreement.

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