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post #1 of 10 Old 03-01-2010, 08:28 PM Thread Starter
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Trainer said what???????

Tonight while getting my daughter ready for her lesson, I was talking to the trainer about my daughter's new horse. The trainer asked how it was going and I mentioned that the horse is testing me to see what he can get away with. The trainer then said "well he must be a problem horse because that is what trainers get to sell"......

I was so mad, I walked off to my car while my daughter finished her lesson. I did not know why someone would suggest something like that, especially having not met the horse herself. Citrus is testing me in what sounds like normal for him- he apparently did the same thing with his last owners- does not buck or throw fits, just has to be firmly told what to do- my cues goes all the way from politely ask to demands.

I assume it is not true that trainers just get problem horses.... what would you do in this situation?
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post #2 of 10 Old 03-01-2010, 08:33 PM
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there are trainers who do get problem horses to sell, but they do it on purpose, they buy them for cheap and put 30 days or even 90 days into them and sell them. But not always, sometimes they'll get a horse in and use it for their lesson program until it sells.

Your trainer sounded like she was being a bit on the nasty side though. My geuss is, you bought that horse without her input so she's mad.

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Yeah, I almost exclusively only deal with 'problem' horses...though technically the horses aren't the problem, it was the human who owned the horse.

Regardless, not all trainers buy horses with issues and resell them after doing a bit of training on them.

You state that this is a 'new' horse. How new? It is VERY normal for a new horse to go on a string of unwanted behaviors after, what I call, 'the honeymoon' phase.

You have to understand that the horse is a herd animal. The horse depends on the herd to keep it safe. Whenever you take the horse away from the herd and environment it knew, there will be a period of time of adjustment as the horse tries to find it's way in the new herd. YOU are part of the new herd. Currently, you're having a bit of a power struggle. It's perfectly normal.

I don't understand why you were upset. The trainer is simply stating what he/she feels is the reality of the situation. It may or may not be correct. Perhaps you didn't like his/her tone?

Are you afraid the trainer is right? And that you've got a road of trouble ahead?

What I would do isn't relevant because I'm not you. So, maybe if you help me understand why you were upset, I could give you some additional advice that would apply to your situation.
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I think I would be upset too, because it sounds like the trainer was implying that you didn't do a very good job of picking a horse. Just because a horse tests you does not automatically make it a problem horse.
I have a horse who's the same. He's not a problem horse, because I don't have a problem with him. He will test me occasionally, but firmly saying no corrects him. If someone said he was a problem horse, I would be upset. If you don't have a problem with him, then he's not a problem horse, is he?
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Others people's opinions are just that. What she said may have had motive behind it, but I can't think of a single horse I've ridden that didn't initially test me. Even the sweet as pie ones want to know how much is going to be asked of them, and how much they can get out of working. Not all horses are problem horses. I wouldn't make much out of it, but then again I don't care much about what other people want to project onto me.

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Wow, every horse I've encountered throughout my whole life of being involved in the horse world, has tested me. I thought that was the norm? Lol. Heck, my horse Nelson even tests people who get on him for me during days I cannot get out to the barn to ride - is he a problem horse? Not at all, he's a phenominal horse.

All horses test their new handlers/riders, it's normal.

I find alot of people in the Equine World are quite opinionated, it's something you have to get used to. I would of just popped back with a snide comment and smirked and walked away myself - but I have a big mouth on me :)

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Well, I wouldn't hold any water to what the trainer said unless the trainer has watched you work with the horse or worked with the horse himself? (S)he can't. So, either that was a general statement made based on how your response came back and was interpreted, or the trainer is socially unskilled ;) .

If it matters to you what the trainer's opinion is, then take opportunities to give specific examples of good and bad things with your horse and be prepared to hear negative criticisms. If it doesn't matter to you, then just don't discuss your horse with him/her again. If asked, just reply "Thanks for asking. We're progressing."

This assumes that the trainer is not/will not be working with you or the new horse; only with your daughter on other horses.
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Well, I wouldn't hold any water to what the trainer said unless the trainer has watched you work with the horse or worked with the horse himself? (S)he can't. So, either that was a general statement made based on how your response came back and was interpreted, or the trainer is socially unskilled ;) .
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Frankly, I still don't see a big drama in what she said. Could be lots of reasons why she said that: the way you described it, she's mad because you didn't buy from her, lacking social skills. Anything. Without hearing both sides it's actually hard to guess. I'd just ignore that as long as you feel confident in what you are doing.
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Tonight while getting my daughter ready for her lesson, I was talking to the trainer about my daughter's new horse. The trainer asked how it was going and I mentioned that the horse is testing me to see what he can get away with. The trainer then said "well he must be a problem horse because that is what trainers get to sell"......

I was so mad, I walked off to my car while my daughter finished her lesson. I did not know why someone would suggest something like that, especially having not met the horse herself. Citrus is testing me in what sounds like normal for him- he apparently did the same thing with his last owners- does not buck or throw fits, just has to be firmly told what to do- my cues goes all the way from politely ask to demands.

I assume it is not true that trainers just get problem horses.... what would you do in this situation?
There's nothing to "do." Laugh it off. Trainer is either jealous or suffering from foot-in-mouth disease. Either way, not your problem.

If the horse becomes more than you can deal with, maybe there's another trainer . . . ?
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