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post #21 of 26 Old 11-19-2009, 10:21 PM
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I tought my horse to tie using a metal o-ring screwed into her stall, then threaded a lunge line through the o-ring, attached in to the halter, then applied pressure and release until she was accustomed to the pressure on her halter. I did the same thing with crossties. I attached one crosstie to her halter, then threaded one lunge line through the other side and attached it to the halter. So she was tied on one side but still could get release from the other,until she was accustomed to more and more constant pressure. The first time she was on crossties,i used twine to give some more head room as well as for safety, and she broke them one time only but just stood there surprised after they snapped. It worked for me and she's never misbehaved since that one incident. It sounds to me that you would feel more comfortable with someone who incorporates some natural horsemanship techniques, monty roberts, klaus hempfling...etc. I would ask each trainer what well known horse trainer they identify with the most and then research both of them. I love my trainer. You should be able to trust them completely.
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post #22 of 26 Old 11-19-2009, 10:53 PM
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YES. Look for a REAL trainer, not some yahoo who will just hurt your horse like that one.

People like that "trainer" who still think of the horse as some dumb animal that needs to be forced into submission....that type of thinking is OVER.

Look for a trainer that is PROGRESSIVE in training...meaning, they don't adhere to the ancient "force em!" mentality. But rather, one who accepts that the horse is an intelligent animal that can be taught how to accept something like being tied, without inflicting pain.

Does that mean that your horse won't freak out when being trained? No. I've trained several horses who had spent years pulling back and breaking things....and they would freak out during training (meaning, they would pull back)..BUT BUT BUT.....

I used a BLOCKER TIE RING. And thus, NO HORSE WAS EVER HURT and they only pulled back a handful of times....meaning, they pulled the 22 ft line long through the ring, without any inflicted pain to their bodies (compared to being tied hard)......until they stopped pulling back altogether (didn't take long for them to figure it out).

They learned fairly quickly (within a week's time, 1 hour each day) not to pull back at all. They learned that when they set back and stepped back....nothing broke, nothing hurt....and so, they started THINKING their way through.

I sacked em out while they were "tied" to the Blocker Tie Ring......meaning, the 22 ft lead line was put through the ring, so the horse could pull it through easily....the horse soon learns...."I'm not trapped! So, I have nothing to worry about. I don't need to freak out."

And the horse was then able to be tied normally after the training, and the horse remembered the lesson and didn't pull back anymore.

Horses are very smart, if we give them time to think instead of react. If we give them the opportunity to think things over....they'll choose the peaceful solution.

If we give them the chance.

That numbskull of a "trainer" didn't give your horse the chance. Didn't allow any thinking...only reacting. Tying up a PREY animal and forcing it to submit....is a great way to end up having to get a chiropractor for the horse after all of that.

My suggestions:

1) get a chiropractor for your horse. Ten to one, there's pain now because of all of the pull backs

2) get a blocker tie ring --> HorseLoversOutlet.com - Blocker Tie Rings

3) get a 22 ft line

4) get a trainer to train your horse without force or pain
Those tie rings are wonderful... I was going to suggest it as well

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post #23 of 26 Old 11-20-2009, 04:48 AM
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I am echoing jimmys advice on this , I have used this and it is a good way of introducing a horse to being tied as it allows a certain amount of freedom, so there is no panic. Also, never tie a horse directly to a metal ring or a solid peice of wood, always tie to a loop of baling twine which is tied to the metal ring or the rail, that way if he pulls back, the twine will break, the wall, rail, or horse, wont, and you wont be left with a panic struck, possibly injured , horse with an even bigger aversion to being tied.
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post #24 of 26 Old 12-20-2009, 12:50 AM Thread Starter
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Hi All-

Just wanted to give you an update on how the training process is going. We are making a lot of progress and today was the first day that she didn't move an inch while saddling and such. Thanks so much again everyone for all the advice and help with this!

Laura
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Glad to hear it.
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post #26 of 26 Old 12-20-2009, 12:45 PM
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wonderful that she is making progress
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