"Trainer" teaching wrong at hating my horse but I have to keep her HELP :( - Page 3 - The Horse Forum

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post #21 of 31 Old 08-25-2011, 10:31 PM
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Just take a break from her.. and wait it out come september. You don't want to ruin your horse.. he sounds absolutely wonderful.. and her methods are disgusting... :/ a head set isn't something you force your horse into.. it comes with their balance.. it's something they develop on their own!

And so what if she figures it out? You're asking for help, we give our opinions, if people have a problem then just deal with it head on. Be honest and that's that!
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post #22 of 31 Old 08-26-2011, 09:19 AM
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Well, I guess if you can't leave you'll have to talk to her and tell her how you feel about the way she's training your horse. A similar thing has happened to me and my trainer and I just told her that the way she's doing things isn't working/its wrong. It might leave your trainer a little bitter, but if she is a reasonable person, shell get over it.
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Why can't your mother sit down with your trainer and talk to her?

Tell the trainer that you were very happy with how she taught you and your horse before she turned to these newest techniques.
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post #24 of 31 Old 08-26-2011, 09:39 AM
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Tell the trainer that you were very happy with how she taught you and your horse before she turned to these newest techniques.
I'd like to point out to the OP and others - something one person might consider harsh, abusive, etc may not at all be. Many like to coo and cuddle when they are working with Fluffy but there are times you have to be firm and WORK.

I would hope working with 4Her's that the BO/trainer would know there is a large base of folks that would have a problem with anything less than upstanding.
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I agree, MLS.

That is why I think it would make sense for the OP's mom to sit down and talk with the trainer.

Maybe the trainer can explain to the mother what is really going on and they can move forward.
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I can get on almost any horse, ride it around a few minutes then get it to side pass. When the signals are clear, the horse will do it, a bit clumsy perhaps at first but it smooths in time. I don't use the method your trainer is using. Unfortunately, the way this gal is now instructing, your horse is going to rebel sooner or later and you could be hurt.
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post #27 of 31 Old 08-26-2011, 10:04 AM
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I can get on almost any horse, ride it around a few minutes then get it to side pass. When the signals are clear, the horse will do it, a bit clumsy perhaps at first but it smooths in time. I don't use the method your trainer is using. Unfortunately, the way this gal is now instructing, your horse is going to rebel sooner or later and you could be hurt.
Different methods work for different horses. The indicator of a good trainer or instructor is they can adjust the methods to fit the horse/student.
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post #28 of 31 Old 08-26-2011, 12:08 PM
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She also had me teach him to sidepass by kicking and yanking him around and telling me he is stupid because he dosent understand. :(
This does not sound like 'technique' but like frustration.

Calling a horse "stupid" when the horse does not understand (and perhaps the rider as well) screams frustration and desire to fix this fast and not deal with it.

Fudgelove did say the horse was green.

I too can get most any horse to side pass like mls but not every one can.. and if a horse is green and untrained he is ignorant of cues and training.. he is not 'stupid.'

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post #29 of 31 Old 08-26-2011, 06:04 PM
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I don't see how pulling a horse's face into the bit in order to get him to drop it is at all helpful.. I once saw a little girl scream at her horse cause her little bumps on the bit weren't getting him into his arabian headframe. "/ I'm no expert but I believe that pain isn't the answer. Especially using pain for a green horse... you're shutting down it's spark before it has a chance to experience the good life of a balanced soft handed rider.. not one that yanks on their face and spurs them...

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I don't see how pulling a horse's face into the bit in order to get him to drop it is at all helpful.. I once saw a little girl scream at her horse cause her little bumps on the bit weren't getting him into his arabian headframe. "/ I'm no expert but I believe that pain isn't the answer. Especially using pain for a green horse... you're shutting down it's spark before it has a chance to experience the good life of a balanced soft handed rider.. not one that yanks on their face and spurs them...

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But there is a noticeable difference between pulling on a horses face and holding his face while pushing him into the bridle, which is a cue to collect.
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