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    12-27-2011, 05:46 PM
  #11
Yearling
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Originally Posted by mls    
They've paid their dues in the daily client horse category. That is how they made their name to attract the marketing companies.

I'm very fortunate to work with 3-6 of the 'hollywood' trainers for our expo every year. They show their true colors very quickly.
But that's what a trainer does on a daily basis.....they have clients and work horses!! These people don't so they aren't trainers anymore...merely "showmen" and "marketers". And they become stale in their knowledge because they aren't STILL out there being a real trainer.
     
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    12-28-2011, 10:46 AM
  #12
Foal
I have to agree with GotaDunQH. The Hollywood trainers, such as the Parelli's and Clinton Anderson are all just for show and IMO aren't real trainers anymore. Sure, they have paid their dues and have already made a name for themselves, but they aren't out there doing the nitty gritty and actually continuing their knowledge. There was a quote that I found one time something along the lines of the day that you stop learning..... Either way, when it comes to horses there is no stopping learning. You can learn something new each and every day.
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    12-28-2011, 10:51 AM
  #13
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I have to agree with GotaDunQH. The Hollywood trainers, such as the Parelli's and Clinton Anderson are all just for show and IMO aren't real trainers anymore. Sure, they have paid their dues and have already made a name for themselves, but they aren't out there doing the nitty gritty and actually continuing their knowledge. There was a quote that I found one time something along the lines of the day that you stop learning..... Either way, when it comes to horses there is no stopping learning. You can learn something new each and every day.
Exactly what I was trying to say.....trainers train....that's what they do for a living. You find REAL trainers at horse shows, showing off their work. You also find REAL trainers breaking out young horses for clients whether it's going to a show horse or a trail horse, or taking in problem horses for an overhaul etc. These people are trainers, and has nothing to do with paying dues.
     
    12-28-2011, 11:06 AM
  #14
mls
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Originally Posted by GotaDunQH    
Exactly what I was trying to say.....trainers train....that's what they do for a living. You find REAL trainers at horse shows, showing off their work. You also find REAL trainers breaking out young horses for clients whether it's going to a show horse or a trail horse, or taking in problem horses for an overhaul etc. These people are trainers, and has nothing to do with paying dues.
So I guess you don't believe anyone has earned the right to retire either.

It's unfortunate your mind is closed to any reasoning.
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    12-28-2011, 11:28 AM
  #15
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So I guess you don't believe anyone has earned the right to retire either.

It's unfortunate your mind is closed to any reasoning.
My mind is not closed and sure they can retire, but I still don't consider them trainers anymore if they have removed themselves from "hands on" to instead stand in front of a camera.
     
    12-28-2011, 11:35 AM
  #16
Foal
To me, retirement is retirement. Typically, when someone retires they don't do what they once did anymore. They aren't considered a trainer once they "retire". If they want to be a celebrity they should have went to Hollywood to become actors/actresses. To me, all of this hype on television is nice to watch, sure. But, it really is just that. Something to watch; not learn from. There is a place for everything, and IMO acting has it's place in Hollywood for films and theater. Not in the horse industry. Don't get me wrong; they all may be good people themselves but I just can't see following them and learning anything from them except how to please everyone.
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    12-28-2011, 01:10 PM
  #17
Foal
I for one am PLEASED some of these trainers have come out with ways to show us how they work their horses. I for one don't have the time or money to travel around and view each trainer (or to hire one for that matter)to see what works (and doesn't work) for ME and MY horses. I have used numerous ideas from Clinton Anderson and Kitty Lauman that I have put to use and had excellent outcomes.
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    12-30-2011, 09:46 PM
  #18
Green Broke
I agree, I like watching and learning! Around here, we have okay trainers... And I plan on being a trainer myself, so learning everything I can!

I personally like Clinton Anderson, Al Dunning, Stacy Westfall, Julie Goodnight, Larry Trocha and Monty Roberts.
     

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