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    View Poll Results: Which trainer do you use?
    Lynn Palm 0 0%
    John Lyons 1 4.35%
    Pat Parelli 4 17.39%
    Clinton Anderson 5 21.74%
    Other 13 56.52%
    Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

     
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        05-21-2008, 01:03 PM
      #11
    Trained
    I completely agree with you, JDI. I would rather have someone coaching me on what to do, rather than guessing I'm doing it correctly.

    Though people in different situations will do what's best for them, Especially when the trainers at their barn are poop and they don't allow outside trainers
         
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        05-21-2008, 01:41 PM
      #12
    Weanling
    I like some of Parelli's things, but I am in love with the work that Monty Roberts does. Whenever I hve a problem, I go to his website or his books to get the answer. He is an amazing horseman. I agree with JDI, that's why when I get the money, I want to spend a week on Flag Is Up Farm with my horse and let Monty teach me some things.
         
        05-21-2008, 05:45 PM
      #13
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Solon
    I don't follow any of those NH people. Uggh. I think they rope people into purchasing equipment and DVD's -that is so outrageous!

    You spend more time learning their games and how to use the equipment instead of just going out there and using common sense when working with your horse.

    I guess they work for some people though. We had a couple ladies where I board that bought over $500 worth of carrot sticks and other 'we have to have them to train our horses' equipment. The rest of us just had to shake our heads.

    One of the barn trainers hates getting NH horses in - spends so much time retraining the horse AND rider! Total nightmare.

    JMO though. 8)
    amen. When I posted that in a different thread a few people on this board blew some fuses. I also find all those NH "programs" ridiculous.
    It's all common sense, every responsible horse owner can do.
         
        05-22-2008, 12:50 AM
      #14
    Started
    There's a great secrete in south west kansas!!!!!, he's a really good trainer who belives with working with horse and ridder from the ground up..............got the parelli's dvd and wasn't impressed at all with it...come on here!!!! Do you really need a dvd to teach you games with you horse ???? You can't work by your self and figure it out?.....anderson is ok but a lot of self help horse trainers guroos dvd's are a waist of money
         
        05-22-2008, 06:08 AM
      #15
    Showing
    Thank you Kansas for sharing your similar view and opinion. I think it's important to see what riders out there thing works and what doesnt. Appreciate it
         
        05-23-2008, 12:16 AM
      #16
    Started
    Sheesh..... :roll: There's nothing wrong with a home study program. Good grief. It's like saying home schooling for kids is bad.

    I love Parelli. It has taken me on the most amazing horsemanship journey, I wish everyone could/would get a taste of it. It goes so much deeper than just the 7 games. That's just the foundation that Parelli is built on. But unless you truly dedicate yourself into understanding the program you will never, ever know what it's truly about. I don't care who you are lol.

    Parelli is not a beat-around-the-bush program. Pat is a master horseman and he does not protect the horse's emotions.......he exposes them and uses what the horse offers and that's how he makes such rapid changes with horses. Clinton Anderson, IMO, is too aggressive and he over does it. The horses become unconfident. He seems to treat every horse the same, he's just so goal oriented that he doesn't care what the horse thinks about what's going on. It's just about getting the horse to do something NOW and FAST and to just get it done instead of putting the relationship first. The horse just then becomes a prop and in some cases a robot. JMO though.
         
        05-23-2008, 12:25 AM
      #17
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Spirithorse
    Sheesh..... :roll: There's nothing wrong with a home study program. Good grief. It's like saying home schooling for kids is bad.

    I love Parelli. It has taken me on the most amazing horsemanship journey, I wish everyone could/would get a taste of it. It goes so much deeper than just the 7 games. That's just the foundation that Parelli is built on. But unless you truly dedicate yourself into understanding the program you will never, ever know what it's truly about. I don't care who you are lol.

    Parelli is not a beat-around-the-bush program. Pat is a master horseman and he does not protect the horse's emotions.......he exposes them and uses what the horse offers and that's how he makes such rapid changes with horses. Clinton Anderson, IMO, is too aggressive and he over does it. The horses become unconfident. He seems to treat every horse the same, he's just so goal oriented that he doesn't care what the horse thinks about what's going on. It's just about getting the horse to do something NOW and FAST and to just get it done instead of putting the relationship first. The horse just then becomes a prop and in some cases a robot. JMO though.
    My problem with Parelli is that it's a blanket program, it's not tailored to each individual horse... and all horses are different. When Pat first started out with his program, I was interested in it, I almost bought it actually... now I'm very glad I didn't; my money was better spent with a certified trainer where I learned more traditional methods that have served me very well so far.
         
        05-23-2008, 12:37 AM
      #18
    Yearling
    I think the arguing about Natural Horsemanship versus Common Horsemanship has gone on long enough. Every thread that even hints at it has an argument or debate about Parelli, or another trainer. There is no sense in arguing with the folks to abide by it or tell them to disregard it as rubbish, if they have sunken enough time into the Natural Horsemanship program to understand it and see results there is no changing their mind, likewise with the folks who do not use Natural Horsemanship and have sucess. If they have a good time with their horse without Natural Horsemanship, that is not arguable.

    If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Do what works, and stick with it.

    'edited for spelling.'
         
        05-23-2008, 01:16 AM
      #19
    Trained
    I've found that patience, spending lots of time with your horse, lots of riding, and having a good, seasoned lead horse as a 'trainer' works better than anything else.
         
        05-23-2008, 11:58 AM
      #20
    Started
    JDI, Parelli recently came out with a Horsenality chart that basically divides them into 4 main areas. Each "kind" of horse has specific strategies that work or are meaningful to that particular horse. A strategy for a "right brained extrovert" will not work for a "left brained introvert." So Parelli does treat each horse as an individual, we do not treat every horse the same.
         

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