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        05-11-2011, 02:17 PM
      #21
    Trained
    Then YOU find a trainer. We are not suggesting you put them in for a 30 day $700 each program. We are telling you to find a place where you can take the horses once or twice to have the trainer SHOW you how to do it.
         
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        05-11-2011, 02:25 PM
      #22
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by SorrelHorse    
    Everyone starts at a place where they do not know. If everyone had the attitude of not getting a trainer, then this world would be full of ruined horses.

    It is especially important in horses to know what you are doing. They are dangerous animals. And if someone can't admit if they aren't qualified, then they don't have business handling a horse. Everyone goes through that "God" stage where they don't want to admit being wrong. I know I did. But eventually you just have to learn to accept advice. We can't be there to ensure your safety and walk you through a process from an online forum, and we can't help you if you do something wrong.

    But a trainer can!
    Hmm, interesting. I never saw the op argue a point or refuse to take advice (regarding the advice she asked for). All I've seen is people tell her how unqualified she is... how silly. We encounter problems every day that we've never dealt with before and been able to conquer them successfully based on prior knowledge, without help from others who are "more qualified". And I'm not just speaking in terms of horse training. No one knows everything, not even these trainers we so often refer to as the only solution. Everyone is a trainer who interacts with a horse. Everyone. And everyone has things to learn.

    Please give advice based on your experiences and knowledge of how to best approach working with these horses. It has been made clear you think she is not qualified to train these horses. I don't think it's necessary to say it or imply it anymore.
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        05-11-2011, 02:29 PM
      #23
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by horsejumper82793    
    this is my senior project, and the owner of the horses cannot afford to put three more horses in training, but thank you.
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    You said you never have taught a horse to lead before and you're working with a 2yo stud colt that rears when he gets tired of cooperating? If the owner of the horses can't afford a trainer I doubt he can afford hospital bills, which is where you're likely going to end up. I'm doing the same exact thing for my senior project next year and I trained my horse for this years project. Difference is that I'm working near someone who knows what he is doing.
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        05-11-2011, 02:32 PM
      #24
    Yearling
    I think she can train them. I have trained all of mine and I think I have done so successfully. I am even showing one of them now. I did send mine off to a friend of mine for WP training but she was well started before I sent her to him last year. I think if she takes it slow and asks questions she will be able to train them.

    I started out with no help and trained my first horse by myself. I had read and watched videos and taken what they said and applied it to the best of my ability. Everyone has to start somewhere and I think as long as she knows when to ask questions she will get them trained. Not everyone has the money to send their horses off to a trainer. I know I don't.
         
        05-11-2011, 02:36 PM
      #25
    Trained
    But we're not always talking about sending off horses. I just think it would be safer for her and the horses if she found a trainer she could consult. It could just be a one time deal. Take the horse or have them show you on one of their horses. It's better to have an idea of what you're doing from a real live, in-the-flesh person.
         
        05-11-2011, 02:38 PM
      #26
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Equilove    
    All I've seen is people tell her how unqualified she is... how silly. We encounter problems every day that we've never dealt with before and been able to conquer them successfully based on prior knowledge, without help from others who are "more qualified".

    It has been made clear you think she is not qualified to train these horses. I don't think it's necessary to say it or imply it anymore.
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    It's true people can sometimes work things out without prior knowledge on some things. But on that philosophy, I'm going to put you in a plane with a pilot who has little training and no experienced co pilot so they can work it out for themselves. Sound appealing? Horses aren't a skill like painting or singing you can teach yourself. They are very capable of killing you. I don't think any person who wants the op to be safe will quit implying s/he shouldn't be training these horses. They are dangerous.
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        05-11-2011, 02:48 PM
      #27
    Trained
    ^^^ This. 100%
         
        05-11-2011, 03:09 PM
      #28
    Foal
    I know I came off as having barely any experience with young horses, but I do know their body language. And the owner is a breeder who worked with all of her previous babies on all these things, so I have her as my mentor and trainer, but I was just interested in what other people had to say about training methods. And the owner knows what my capabilities are so obviously i'm not totally underqualified since she trusts me with these three babies.
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        05-11-2011, 03:18 PM
      #29
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by horseloverd2    
    You said you never have taught a horse to lead before and you're working with a 2yo stud colt that rears when he gets tired of cooperating? If the owner of the horses can't afford a trainer I doubt he can afford hospital bills, which is where you're likely going to end up. I'm doing the same exact thing for my senior project next year and I trained my horse for this years project. Difference is that I'm working near someone who knows what he is doing.
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    do you think I havent talked to trainers too? Im collecting advice from several people, including people from this forum. I'm sure there are plenty of trainers on this forum. I post one thing and now I feel like I'm getting attacked by people who don't even know me. I tend to surprise people who doubt me, like my dad who didn't think I could afford a 4-year college. But I just won a $20,000 scholarship so I don't need anymore negative comments. Thanks..
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        05-11-2011, 03:22 PM
      #30
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by myhorsesonador    
    I really hope you don't end up dead. The point that every one is trying to make, is that you are ask one of the most basic of training lesson questions on an internet forum. A horse that rears is extreamly dangerous. Also, horses that are basicly wild at this point are a lot harder to train that it would be a weanling. They are older, stronger, and weigh a heck of a lot more than you do.
    GET A TRAINER! Just because a trainer is helping you doesn't mean that "you" are not training the horse. A trainer is there to help when things go sour, and you don't know what to do.
    I know my risks. I mean I jump horses and am learning how to breeze racehorses so I could get killed doing that too. But thanks
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