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        09-24-2013, 01:50 PM
      #11
    Weanling
    First, good job so far with this horse, you obviously are doing something well considering where he came from and the results you're getting already.

    But, take your time. As mentioned before, re-training a horse takes longer. I absolutely wouldn't go to a more severe bit. Maybe try different types, I know my arabians have a narrow mouth and prefer a double-jointed bit. IMO, bits are not breaks but communication tools. This horse didn't learn how to stop. I'd be very persistant in doing down transitions with your seat, then your hands (no pulling) and I'm sure the horse will get it, they are smart... Practice an emergency on rein stop, just in case.

    For leg yield, one side stiffness and bolting at the canter, I would do a lot of ground work. They must yield on the ground first. On the lunge, you work the difficult side a little more than the easy side. Probably won't become perfect at his age, but you can make it better.

    Good luck!
         
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        09-24-2013, 01:51 PM
      #12
    Trained
    Then I, an ADULT, can tell you that he isn't safe to ride outside of an arena. I didn't know your age. I suggest you get training help bc this horse will hurt you. You should look up and read the thread about a broken back recently posted. =/
         
        09-24-2013, 01:51 PM
      #13
    Weanling
    Ok, thanks!
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        09-24-2013, 02:12 PM
      #14
    Super Moderator
    I don't necessarily read anything about him that says that he is super dangerous to ride outside the arena. Him enjoying trails and being so steady makes him points up on other horses right off the bat. However, not having reliable "brakes" is something you want to improve, pretty soon, too. I detest riding a hrose where I am not sure I can make that horse STOP if I need to. Many horses will get excited by a canter and go too quick at first. That gait is closer to what a hrose that is fleeing a predator will do and gets them farther from their thinking brain, more into their panic brain. Work, work, work will change that. And, as many people said, the more supple your horse is, the more the rein will come through the WHOLE body, not just pulling on his mouth.

    The rein is meant to "speak" to his feet, so using one rein at a time, and looking for the rein to create some lateral movement in the legs and body will build your connection, and thus your "brakes".

    Be reasonable in what you expect of an 18 year old horse with a long history of being ridden stiff. So, work into having him bend and move laterally little by little. Eightteen is not that old for Arabs, who tend to have longer riding lives than many other breeds.
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        09-24-2013, 02:15 PM
      #15
    Weanling
    Thank you guys so much for the help, and I will put your advice to good use!
         
        09-24-2013, 02:18 PM
      #16
    Trained
    I'm with SEAmom here. Work from the ground up. And keep work interesting. I'm willing to bet that his " headstrong" tendency is boredom. My first Arab told me, after two laps, that longing was super boring and that he'd be delighted if he could stand in the middle and make me run in circles. I never longed him again, but did tons of groundwork with obstacles and other challenges. That's what he wanted to do, interesting stuff.
    Normal bits, especially part rubber, are just too thick for a small Arab mouth. Try for yourself, first with your index, then with your little finger....which one is more comfy?

    I also wouldn't canter him. Walk and trot, always bending, yielding, shoulder in. Never straight. And after arena work a little round around the block, to relax. Keep things positive.For accepting the leg aid, start on the ground, apply pressure where your leg would be, as little as possible but as much as needed, until he yields, then right away no more pressure, without delay. Try your flat hand first, if not, go all the way " down" to the tip of your finger, then work your way up to hand again. He probably has no clue what leg aids are. Use your weight also, when riding.
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        10-09-2013, 04:27 PM
      #17
    Weanling
    An update for anyone interested :) I haven't been able to ride much for the last week due to various scheduling issues, but the training is working! I rode him today, and he was such a good boy. Listened perfectly, held his frame and gave me a nice, controlled canter. Things are coming along nicely! To top it off, he was the best behaved horse today because it was VERY windy and he doesn't spook at it :)
         
        10-09-2013, 04:28 PM
      #18
    Weanling
    And he has picked up on the leg yield thanks to all the advice you guys gave me! Thanks so much for putting up with me and helping my boy :)
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        10-09-2013, 10:25 PM
      #19
    Started
    Would love to see some photos!!
         
        10-09-2013, 10:32 PM
      #20
    Weanling
    Can't :( electronics hate me.
         

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