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post #1 of 14 Old 12-07-2010, 11:52 PM Thread Starter
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Training horse with "unbalanced rider"

I have a question that is probably kind of silly but I've been curious about it. You see, the two horses we're buying are still babies and haven't been trained to ride yet so we'll be the one's who start them (probably by a professional trainer) this way they'll be trained the way we want them trained and we'll be the only ones who ride them hopefully for their whole lives.

Anyways, my question stems from a chronic condition my husband has. He's ridden horses before so he's experienced, although it's been at least 15 years since he's been on a horse... but he's got chronic pain on his left leg due to being bitten by a brown recluse spider 12 years ago.. he's now got bad blood clots in that leg and any pressure on the inside of his knee/leg hurts. I don't even know if he'll be able to ride comfortably... but I was wondering if he is slightly or more than slightly unbalanced with his position on the horse do you think it would mess her up at all? It'll be a trial and error thing when he first rides as he doesn't even know if he'll be in any pain since he hasn't ridden since getting the original injury so this might not even be an issue but I don't want to mess up a horse by him always having to sit unbalanced in the saddle.. know what I mean?

Any opinions/experience with this sort of issue would help out so thanks in advance for any replies.
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post #2 of 14 Old 12-08-2010, 12:00 AM
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I don't think it will make a difference, unless he is leaning extremely far to the side. Consider that polo players practically hang on their horse's side at full speed... it isn't going to mess up the horse. I'd be more worried about your husband falling from being unbalanced if the horse were to spook or misstep. The most I can suggest is consider that the larger the horse, the less it will "feel" is unbalanced seat... If it's a tiny horse, it could affect it more than a larger horse. It really depends on just HOW unbalanced he is.

Good luck! My boyfriend is terrified of brown recluse spiders and there has been an increase in BR bites in our area since last month. I hope everything works out!

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post #3 of 14 Old 12-08-2010, 12:01 AM
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I could just see the main problem coming up with this, is that the horse can eventually obtain back problems and will more likely than not need a chiropractor/massage more often than a normal horse. Also it will depend on the horses temperament on how well they handle your husband, a laid back easy going horse will have a much easier time than a skittish sensitive horse.
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post #4 of 14 Old 12-08-2010, 12:05 AM
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Forgot to mention you will probably want to make a saddle modification that will account for the weight distribution as to not hurt the horse's back.

I'm so busy, I don't know if I've found a rope... or lost my horse...
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post #5 of 14 Old 12-08-2010, 12:10 AM Thread Starter
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Well this filly will be turning two in April next year so there's a little while yet before she'll be able to be ridden by someone like my hubby. He's 6'1 and 200lbs. The filly is already 15.1hh so she's going to be on the taller side... at least that's what we're hoping for. Our original plan was to buy a "draft" type horse that was already broke for him and a shorter, stocky horse for me. I'm no lightweight either LOL. We'll see how these two fill out/mature and hopefully they'll be a good match for us... if not we'll just have to buy a couple more LOL.

On a side note... I won't sell the two babies we're buying even if we can't ride them ourselves... once I buy a horse it's usually for life unless something out of our control comes up and we can't afford to keep them... but in that case I'd make sure to find as good a home as possible so I'll know they'll be loved and cared for.
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post #6 of 14 Old 12-08-2010, 12:14 AM Thread Starter
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Oh.. yah forgot to mention, I tried telling my hubby that I don't think he'll be able to ride comfortably but he's set on giving it a go... only he knows how much pain it would cause though. You see it's more on the back of the knee where it hurts him.. and only sorta on the side but that's normally the part of your leg that has the least amount of pressure on the horse.. depending on your seat. I dunno.. we'll see how it all works out.
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An unbalanced rider on a breaker/young horse WILL have an impact. Get onto all 4's and find a kid to sit on your back and wobble around, I guarantee you that you'll be thrown off balance. A young horse, particularly a breaker needs a very balanced rider that will interfere as minimally as possible to the horse's balance, to allow the horse to learn how to move freely under saddle and find it's own balance with the added weight of the rider.
A more experienced horse, if you get one with the right temperament, will not be affected to such an extent, but definitely a green horse/breaker will struggle.
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An unbalanced rider on a breaker/young horse WILL have an impact. Get onto all 4's and find a kid to sit on your back and wobble around, I guarantee you that you'll be thrown off balance. A young horse, particularly a breaker needs a very balanced rider that will interfere as minimally as possible to the horse's balance, to allow the horse to learn how to move freely under saddle and find it's own balance with the added weight of the rider.
A more experienced horse, if you get one with the right temperament, will not be affected to such an extent, but definitely a green horse/breaker will struggle.
That's what I was worried about. I have seen even "well trained" horses get thrown off balance by a rider who doesn't sit square in the saddle so I was assuming that the same thing would happen to a young/green horse... although, with as many years experience as my hubby has riding all sorts of horses I am hoping that he can find a way to make it so he doesn't have to sit off-balance.

Like I said though, he doesn't know if he'll be able to ride or not as he hasn't been on a horse since he got bit by that nasty spider. If he can't ride though I'm sure it won't bother him as he'll just enjoy being able to do groundwork with the filly.. who knows he might just train her to drive instead! :)
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Depending on the severity, the filly will likely learn to compensate, though after a lot of time with just your husband riding her, she would be unbalanced under a balanced rider. I agree with Icyred, you'll want to keep a very close eye on her back for soreness and have regular appointments for her with either a chiro or a message therapist (maybe both).

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post #10 of 14 Old 12-08-2010, 01:56 AM
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Mystic, I was a therapeutic riding instructor and taught many a lesson with a dead weight or an unbalanced rider. The horses coped with it well, but they were also well used to it.

I know you are really close to me, and we should meet up at some point in the not to distant future. If you can talk the hub into it, I will buy the beer!

But my trainer is in Douglassville. If you are looking for someone, she is awesome, she is hard as nails with me and fantastic with my horse. I would not recommend her if you need someone to be kind to you, but if you want someone who really knows a lot who will do right by the horse then let me know and I can give you her info. If you have the time, search through my posts and you will see how much I think of her - if not, which is understandable, send me a private message.

I would bet my moms life on her.
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