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    12-23-2009, 12:14 PM
training to neck rein

I would like to train Sonya to neck rein so running barrels and poles are easier, and if I want to show her in any western classes in the future.

So how do I do this, or at least start?
Here is her info:
Name: Sonya Age:3 (4 in march) Breed: QH/Appy Height: 14.3
Activities: Currently doing trail rides and light work since she is 7 mos preggo, but before I was riding her english(w/t/c), and doing barrels and poles every so often. I even entered her in a show at her barn and she came in 3rd for barrels, and 3rd for poles(she would have placed higher but the ring was a swamp so we were just doing walk trot).

Hope you can help!
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    12-23-2009, 10:30 PM
Green Broke
There is a thread in the Western Riding section about neck reining, that should help you out.
    12-24-2009, 01:23 AM
K so couple questions...

Let's start with why is your GRADE FILLY pregnant? It's my understanding that *most* horses don't stop growing til age 5-8 and are not considered adults until at LEAST age 4...couldn't wait til her knees are fully closed to breed her?

Second...were you competing "in a swamp" on a bred filly or a 2 year old? Kinda lost me there...sounds like it was more of a fun show than anything though so I see no reason a 3 year old couldn't do that.

Back to the point of the topic...I know of 2 ways to train to neckrein. Either the old fashioned lean the outside rein across the neck before applying direct pressure and wait til they connect the dots, or if she's a quiet horse then you can cross the reins under her neck before putting them over to ride. BUT then you can ONLY neckrein, no straight reining because the outside rein that touches the neck will also be the direct pressure touching the inside of the bit. Make sense?

Hope you get it sorted out and she foals out healthy...sorry if I sound bitter but I sold a 3 year old to an idget that bred her that spring - she had a still born and nearly died herself. I see NO reason to breed ANYTHING before the age of 4, even WITH a vet's ok...they're babies themselves and I don't feel their body is ready to take that kind of stress, never mind competing as well. *shakes head*
    12-24-2009, 02:37 PM
Honeysuga - Thanks! I will go check that out!

EveningShadows - Ok, first off, don't yell at me when you don't even know the whole story. You do siund bitter right through the whole post, and rather rude. I had no intention of EVER breeding Sonya. She is just a riding horse to me, not anything worthy of being bred. It scares me half to death that she is pregnant and something might go wrong and something bad will happen to Sonya or her foal.
"...couldn't wait til her knees are fully closed to breed her?" Rude much? Actually I never decided to breed her, she bred herself, thanks.
The ring wasn't actually a swamp, the middle had puddles in it from rain the day before so we were riding on the outside of the ring. As I said it was just walk/trot, and people ride there mares alot harder than walk trot when they are even farther along in their pregnancy. OK, the show was just on the farm, just for the horses on the farm, so it only had 7 or 8 horses entered. The show was in the beginning of October, and I didn't find out she was preggo til the end of November. She was only about 4 months preggo in the comp...
I know it is very bad that she is pregnant, but there is nothing I can do about it, and I didn't know that she was pregnant when competing.

I know I sounded bitter but wouldn't you if someone was yelling at you over something you had no control over?

Thanks for the info on neck reining...
    12-24-2009, 02:41 PM
When I train to neck rein, I always push with my outside leg....that way the horse really moves. When I'm training barrels I push with my inside leg, that way they can really move with the turn.

I ride in spurs, yes hate me if you have too, but my spurs have a soft rowl and I'm not spur crazy when their on. When I'm training that horse to neck rein, I gently spur with the inside leg, and lay the rein over their neck.....I never get in their mouth when reining, I want the horse to feel the pressure of the rein and move away from it.
    12-24-2009, 02:43 PM
Thanks Kansasbarrelracer. I will use my legs ALOT more with I try to neck rein.
    12-24-2009, 03:47 PM
I'm not yelling, I'm voicing my opinion. There's no way to emphasize anything so I used caps on certain words to exaggerate them.

I'll start with "she bred herself, thanks". exactly? Either you have a loosly kept stallion roaming or it was a whoops. I can understand a whoops in the case of the mare getting out and going to see the stallion...happened to me once, my 16 year old mare jumped the fence and ran down the road to see the stallion a couple farms over. Stuff happens and I get that, but by how you described it initially, there was no inkling that it was an unplanned event. Just that she was bred and you wanted to start a new training endevour.

The swamp thing I was just quoting your statement and I backed it up with a 3 year old should be able to handle that fine. Question do you not know your mare is pregnant? Even if she did break out and get tagged by a stallion, first thing you do is get a vet check to confirm, not enter in a competition and hope for the best. How long have you had this filly?

And I fully agree that a bred mare is more than ridable...but it's designed to be stress free rides that keep her in shape, not stressful competitions with strange horses and new surroundings. Again, these are only my opinions and I'm not yelling at you. I rode most of my mares well into pregnancy, but the last trimester was strictly once a week walking up and down the road...stress to a seasoned broodmare can be devastating, nevermind a maiden filly. Personally, if she were my filly, regardless of how she got pregnant, I would be giving her the rest of her pregnancy off. Not to say she can't handle it, but you want her to have her best chance at a problem free delivery, no? Also, that's not to say you can't still work with her...I just wouldn't ride her through the rest because of the circumstances. Ground work, lunging, round penning, maybe some trick training...keep human time light and fun to keep her respectful, but nothing to stress her both physically or mentally.
    12-24-2009, 09:28 PM
How did she breed herself?
The farm I board Sonya at kept a 2yr old stud colt in the same pasture with her and 7 other horses, and apparently he was 'shooting blanks'. Now before you start yelling at me, they are paying for vet checks and indoor board January- weaning time. So that's how she got pregnant.
About the swamp thing, I didn't know she was pregnant until a month after the comp.
About the competition, it was on the farm she lives on, with horses she rides or is pastured with. There were only 20 or so people watching, and she has been around more than that this summer. There were no new surroundings.
As of now I am just talking her around the ring and down the trails bareback, so she doesn't get her lungs squashed with the girth and the foal, and I was just thinking teaching her to neck rein would be something not to stressful and different to do while she is preggo.
    12-26-2009, 12:08 PM
Your breeding is not something I would deem "accidental" if you knowingly kept your horse with a 2 year old stallion. I have another word for that but I'll keep it to myself...this is almost the EXACT same scenario as the filly I sold and repossessed a couple years back except they thought their 2 year old stallion was "too young" to breed her, and I have no nicer words for you so I'm going to leave it alone.

The competition I already said it sounded low key and no reason a 3 year old couldn't do a fun show like that. Good luck anyway...
    12-27-2009, 01:47 PM
I never decided to breed her, she bred herself, thanks.
Im being nice and deleting what I orig said. BUT. WHY was a stallion left with a 2 y.o horse . . REGARDLESS of ' blanks ' or not..thats pure asking for trouble. Those people shoulden't have horses. Pure stupidity .

Any way good luck. If you love her you'll let her mature.

I just read that its the place you board... i'd sue . . That's #1 , #2 THEY should be paying for all vet care. If some moron left a stud out with my horse(s) and I was paying THEM to board there i'd flip..

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