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post #1 of 6 Old 12-23-2010, 04:23 AM Thread Starter
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Talking Training Sueno!

Here a video of what I did yesterday!

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post #2 of 6 Old 12-23-2010, 04:57 PM Thread Starter
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bump bump :) bumpity
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post #3 of 6 Old 12-23-2010, 06:19 PM
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Hi Sugarplumlove,

Thank you for posting that cute video (and that song is one of my alltime favs, too!). That clarifies a lot of what you were talking about in your other thread. I can see that Sueno invades your space in many ways because you are literally pulling him into it. You handle him on such a short leadline at times and stand so close to him when you are asking him to disengage his hips and step over that he ends up stepping his shoulder right into YOU.
It is nice to see how calm he is and how trusting of you. However, he often seems confused as to what you are asking of him. I found myself confused, too, when wathcing . I think it's because I didn't see you give a clear "release" when he had done what you asked him to do.

Was it, "bend your head around to here" or was it "give to the pressure" or was it "bend your head around to here AND step under" I wasn't sure what your goas was. And it seemed that when he did give to the pressure on his halter, you kept on asking. I just wanted to see a total, "yes, that's right!" ans a sessation of the asking for a sec so he can soak on what he did that earned a CLEAR release.

You will want to work on having him move off of pressure soon. Like step over to the side, step one back, come off the lead line and run forward (following you at a trot). If you have him always so cuddly close to you, it will be hard to train him all the fundamentals of riding , which all are opperant on the basis of "move away from pressure".
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Ok thanks! I'll work on that!
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post #5 of 6 Old 12-24-2010, 01:54 PM
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What exactly are you trying to accomplish?? I'm not quite sure where to go with this...
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post #6 of 6 Old 12-25-2010, 09:05 PM
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I have to agree with the others...good job on the desensitization, but as far as the other exercises, I fail to see what your actual goal in mind was; especially with a pushy horse you want to make your cues to move out and away from you VERY clear...I saw no change in body position from when you were desensitizing, to when you were sensitizing him to pressure, your lead was way too short to allow him the room to move out of your space, and you pulled him around rather than asking him to move away from you.

As for the horse, he definitely doesn't seem afraid of your tools...a very good thing. However, he DOES NOT want to move his feet...when I am working with a horse, and I ask him to move his feet, be it forwards, backwards, left or right, I want ENERGY!!! You may need to get more energy behind your own cues, and incorporate a stick to bring out more motivation on his part...when he responds well and with energy then get rid of some of the other tools you have to use.

Ex. My mare didn't know how to lunge when I got her, so I had to use alot more 'firm' body language, really exxagerate my 'send' hand, and use my stick to first tap her shoulder out on to the circle, and then flip the string on the stick at her tail to get her to move foward on the circle. Now All I have to do is point my hand in the direction I want her to go and she goes, but it takes more pressure initially sometimes to get to that point where they will listen to the subtle cues. And always start "light/ask" and progress to "demand"; starting with lifting and pointing in the direction you want him to go, and ending with having to use the stick to direct his movement.

"The ideal horseman has the courage of a lion, the patience of a saint, and the hands of a woman..."

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