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post #1 of 14 Old 02-02-2009, 03:03 PM Thread Starter
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''Training'' Way To Early *Rant*

I rode horses with my cousins two days ago and we had fun, but we had to quit riding early and put my two horses up for reasons I'll not divulge.

We kept my uncle's mare Buttercup out and my cousin Whitney went and got ''her'' one and a half year old filly Nugget (the filly isn't really hers, but she's claimed her as hers and my uncle has said that the filly is considered hers). Nugget is only about twenty months old... she'll be two years old in May.

We played around with Nugget and Buttercup for a bit and Whitney picked up Nuggets hooves and led her around for a bit. We were all getting ready to put the horses back up when my uncle David came by and saw that we had Nugget out. He decided to stop by and ''help''.

He put a saddle on Nugget and a bridle and had Whitney get up on her and led them around for a bit, then he gave Whitney the reins and had her make Nugget ride up and down the road for a while. We measured Nugget's weight the other day and it came up as barely making it above 650 lbs... Whitney weighs around 80 lbs... and the saddle was fairly heavy. Nugget is extremely small, too. She's a Racking Horse /x/ Quarter horse and is only about 13.2 hands (if that). Her dam is barely 14.1 hands.

Nugget's very fine boned and is just teensy... It made me mad that they were riding her with her being so small... but I couldn't say anything because she's not my horse and they wouldn't listen anyway. Whitney has, in the past, asked me to help her train Nugget when she gets old enough, but I was planning on waiting until she was closer to three or possibly even four before starting much because she's so little.

Sorry, it just annoys me that they're messing Nugget up so early...


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post #2 of 14 Old 02-02-2009, 03:08 PM
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I agree that it is not right to start riding a horse that early. It can contribute to some major soundness issues down the road. I don't think theres anything wrong with putting a saddle on a 20-22 month old horse but I would never ride a 18 month old horse!! Expecially one that tiny!

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while its too early I don't think the size/weight is that bad, just the age. I mean breaking a young pony they are going to be that small and light, and an 80lber would probably be okay. I would say that's just too young to start, at least wait until she is two for gosh sakes
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I know what yall mean. With my colt, I myself was jumping and hanging over his side when he was about that age... but I can't really compare, because right now, Nugget at 20 months is the equivalent of my colt when he was barely a year.

I'm not against jumping up for a few seconds every now and then, but saddling up and trying to ride a horse as small and as young as Nugget is just bad in my book.

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Will nugget even get very big?? How big do racking horses get? Just wondering... she could be ahead instead of behind in growing?
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Will nugget even get very big?? Did you say she was part pony? Just wondering... she could be ahead instead of behind in growing?
Sorry for the confusion.

Nugget's sire is 15 hands, her dam is barely 14.1 hands. Nugget is currently around 13.2 hands. She'll probably stay around 13.3 hands, but I doubt she'll make it to 14 hands...
She's not part pony, she's a Rackinghorse/x/Quarterhorse.

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You didn't say how long the horse was worked. I have nothing against starting a 2 year old horse, but I think the lessons need to be short.
A ride at her age is fine, just keep it to 10-15 easy walking minutes.


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I have nothing against starting a two year old horse either, I started my own colt at two. The filly is a year and a half... give or take a few months. She'll not be two until May and personally, I think she's too small to be worked any right now.

Here is a picture of her... it's a few months old, but Nugget hasn't hardly changed at all and she definitely hasn't gotten any taller or more filled out.

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Just an aside. There are 12 months in a year. If she is physically two in May she is a year and 3/4. By the books she is considered 2 now. Lots of book two year olds are about to get started soon too.
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Just an aside. There are 12 months in a year. If she is physically two in May she is a year and 3/4. By the books she is considered 2 now. Lots of book two year olds are about to get started soon too.
I know, she'd be considered two already, but we only trailride and have never shown, so there's no reason to start early.
It's not just that they're starting her so early that get's me annoyed... her mentality isn't mature enough to understand things, I don't think, and physically, all they're going to do is break her down by the time she's ten, IMHO, because as soon as it's proven that she can be stopped undersaddle, they'll be running her daily and if she ever bucks someone off, she'll be whipped pretty badly. There's a reason I don't mingle with that side of my family unless I absolutely have to (I'm talking about my uncle and his youngest son here, not my cousin Whitney and her sisters and parents).

I guess I just get frustrated with them, because they just don't seem to have any regards for the well being and health of their horses...

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