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        01-11-2014, 06:44 PM
      #11
    Foal
    There's no excuse for attacking you. So even if you don't use treats, this shouldn't have happened :)
    And what HoovesWithDaFur said, you should watch her body language. I don't really think it's hurting (or is she really old?) but maybe she didn't like it anymore. I don't know how long you worked just on the bow. It's better to do something for a short time, then do something else, and then maybe go back to what you wanted to teach your horse. But maybe you already did that, then it's good.
    But still, no excuse for attacking you :)

    Ps. HoovesWithDaFur, I like your nickname hihihi
         
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        01-11-2014, 07:06 PM
      #12
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Reeltje    
    HoovesWithDaFur, that's not true, horses even 'bow' in nature to stretch their backs.
    Look at these horses stretching
    http://cache2.allpostersimages.com/p...ntains-hma.jpg
    http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3181/2...96029702_z.jpg
    I guess this is what you mean with circus bow, or head between legs.
    One thing you can do is first teach your horse to put his legs wide, split, I don't know how to say it in english. Like this http://freekabayo.jouwweb.nl/upload/...2672.large.jpg
    Some horses step back if you let them bow, but some horses don't, and then you get a weird, not so good bow, like this: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3335/...a389cf5222.jpg

    With bowing you stretch a lot of muscles. So don't go all the way the first time.. Do it in small parts, every training a little bit more.
    This is what I am talking about:


    I can only imagine with a rider up there! (If OP would eventually like to perform the bow undersaddle.) I feel it could really strain the horse. But, I could be wrong!

    Reeltje is right on with doing short sessions and also try to end on a good note, even if she doesnt have the bow down 100% but something clicks. With my mare, if I ask her to bow... and bow.. and bow.. and bow.. she just stops.. gets bored, so I learned to only make her do it 2-3 times a "session", and then I move on to doing something else with her.


    Thanks for the compliment on the username.
         
        01-12-2014, 06:04 AM
      #13
    Foal
    Ii think the bow in the picture isn't that wrong. From that point you need to work the head up, so it's above his legs and not between his legs. But not a bad start.

    Haha indeed.Just like my horse, she likes tricktraining very much. But if she doesn't understand me or she can't do it she's like naaaaaw I don't wanna do it anymore its to haaaard :( hihi.
         
        01-12-2014, 01:07 PM
      #14
    Foal
    I taught my mare to pick up things:)
         
        01-12-2014, 01:56 PM
      #15
    Weanling
    With regards to bowing- I want to teach him the one knee bow. I think it's less of a strain for the horse. It would also be useful when I am riding bareback and have to get off then get back on or something- I could just ask him to bow down and then get on easily!
         
        01-12-2014, 04:47 PM
      #16
    Foal
    I think it's actually the same, but with one leg bend :') I don't think one bow is less of a strain then the other.
    About getting on him with bow.. I wouldn't do that. You can get your horse easily out of balance and you don't want your horse to fall over.. I know some people do it, but you need to get on very quick and souple without taking your horse out of balance.
    Getting up is also hard for your horse, with you on him. So your horse needs to be trained really well for a controlled bow.

    I don't know if I should do it when my horse knows to bow really really well, but now I wouldn't even think of it. So if you really want to do it make sure your horse is ready and has a good balance in bowing :)

    Did some tricktraining today, making a video
         
        01-12-2014, 08:57 PM
      #17
    Foal
    Reeltje, I would love to see your video. I just got into trick training Sept 2013, I am new to it but addicted..
         
        01-13-2014, 05:28 AM
      #18
    Foal
    It's very fun haha
    I do it for quite some time now, but only once a week or less, and in the winter/autumn when the grass is soo muddy I can't do anything. But it's extremely good weather for this time of the year in the Netherlands. It haven't even snowed yet! :O (On one side good, no slippery roads, no cold etc, on the other had, I'd love to have some snow clips for a vid haha)

    It's fun because my horse (I say my horse, but she's actually not mine) learns vereeery slow. She loves to do tricktraining, but she's just slow with everything :P So it takes a loooong time to teach her something. (what makes me a little proud when she finally learned something hihi). She's can be very fast distracted too. If there's something weird, or we do tricktraining somewhere else then her own home, she's like 'hey look at that! What's that! Oh and what's this! Aah help a monster!' hahaa:')

    Since a short time I train another horse from a friend, because she wanted him to rear for a rearing picture on de beach at sunset. And he's just the complete opposite of my horse, that's so funny haha. He doesn't pay attention on anything around him but me. So focussed on me (and the treats haha, that's why you need to put him back on his place sometimes). And he learns so fast! Or maybe just normal, but in comparison with my horse it's soooo much faster. Something like bow on one knee took like half a year for my horse, because she was afraid to go down. And with this horse, first training session, BAM, on one knee.

    So funny to see the difference between those horses :')
         
        01-13-2014, 05:21 PM
      #19
    Foal
    I love that, I would like to start teaching my Clydesdale some tricks (I dream about training both of them to rear, but I am too scared that the trick will go bad so the chances that I will are slim to none.) I already started Jagger the Clydesdale on parking out, however I am not sure if that is really considered a trick.. lol.

    Kudos to you for sticking with her when she is a slow learner!

    How did you go about training the bow for your horse? I used a rope with April, but I have half heartedly attempted with Jagger and he is not a fan of his leg being held up by a rope. I know it can be done, I just don't have the will to do it right now.
         
        01-13-2014, 06:50 PM
      #20
    Foal
    I love clydsedales!
    Yeah it's a trick! And a good thing to do before starting to bow (not extremely parked out, just a little).

    I'm not a big fan of ropes either.. It can be used if you know how, and if it can be released immediately when your horse starts to panic or something.
    Wich bow do you mean? Classical bow (straight legs) or bow on one knee?

    Here's my video by the way :)
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