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post #1 of 6 Old 10-08-2013, 03:15 PM Thread Starter
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Trocanter?

Lately my horse has been doing an odd thing when he's trotting.

He'll trot along and then he'll start acting like he's hopping into the canter but then not...but he'll do it over and over again. He's not speeding up or anything just kind of doing a 1/2 stride of the canter and pausing ever so slightly and doing it again. Sometimes he'll only do it once and then keep on trotting and sometimes he'll do it 4-5 times before he starts trotting again. He does it in harness too.

I've had my saddle fitted and this summer I had the vet come out and he told me that he didn't think that he was lame or off at all (after a flexion test and observing his gaits). Of course my horse wouldn't do this odd thing when the vet was here.

I'm starting to think that maybe I accidentally trained him to do this? I got him a year and a half ago and he wouldn't pick up his right lead. I started working with him on it and every time he picked up the wrong lead I immediately slowed him to a trot and asked again. Alot of times he only took 1 stride on the wrong lead before I tried to correct him and he didn't always pick it up correctly the 2nd (or even 3rd or 4th or 5th) time I asked. When this happened it was about the same odd gait that he's doing now but I'm not asking him to do anything, he just does it randomly on his own.
What's going on here?!
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Lately my horse has been doing an odd thing when he's trotting.

He'll trot along and then he'll start acting like he's hopping into the canter but then not...but he'll do it over and over again. He's not speeding up or anything just kind of doing a 1/2 stride of the canter and pausing ever so slightly and doing it again. Sometimes he'll only do it once and then keep on trotting and sometimes he'll do it 4-5 times before he starts trotting again. He does it in harness too.

I've had my saddle fitted and this summer I had the vet come out and he told me that he didn't think that he was lame or off at all (after a flexion test and observing his gaits). Of course my horse wouldn't do this odd thing when the vet was here.

I'm starting to think that maybe I accidentally trained him to do this? I got him a year and a half ago and he wouldn't pick up his right lead. I started working with him on it and every time he picked up the wrong lead I immediately slowed him to a trot and asked again. Alot of times he only took 1 stride on the wrong lead before I tried to correct him and he didn't always pick it up correctly the 2nd (or even 3rd or 4th or 5th) time I asked. When this happened it was about the same odd gait that he's doing now but I'm not asking him to do anything, he just does it randomly on his own.
What's going on here?!
My horse does this too, although he is a TWH, and he does it at the runningwalk.

It's just a bad habit that has been learned throughout the training process. It's easier for a horse to canter than to runningwalk (not sure about trot) and he will 'cheat' by hopping into the next stride, a kind of in-between gait that is comfy, but altogether wrong for the precision and purity of your gaits.

I just pop him on the outside rein every time he hops- not really a hard tug, but demand that his head and neck don't go into the rolling maneuver that is required for a horse to hop forward, as in the canter. This has been the best way for me to tell him that hopping is not permissible.
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post #3 of 6 Old 10-08-2013, 04:10 PM
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Get him rechecked for pain. He could have twisted in the field or box.

Then, if he starts, either push in to a canter, and canter until YOU say when to stop.. When he tries to break to trot, push on!

Or, make it difficult to canter, carry on with trotting and push the trot forwards.

He may also be cold backed. Does he try it throughout? He may be trying to loosen his back off through canter. My advice would be give a good warm up, trot on a longer contact and push forwards. If he tries to mess around, half halt and keep pushing forward.

Horses will try to do this out of discomfort or pain normally.
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post #4 of 6 Old 10-08-2013, 04:15 PM
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Insn't this called four beating if it's held consistently? Or am I totally wrong?
My mare does something similar, she'd a STB and will pace with her back legs and canter with the front. It's my fault for unbalanced riding and never working with her on her canter.
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post #5 of 6 Old 10-10-2013, 11:51 AM Thread Starter
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Alright, I haven't gotten him rechecked by a vet but I did observe him for lameness and ran my fingers down each side of his spine to see if he acted like him was in pain. He didn't even flinch and he was showing no signs of lameness at the walk and trot. He's had a day off and I'm planning on riding him today. I'll let you all know how it goes. I'm going to give him extra time to warm up, and work long a low.
He doesn't have a cold back and he's very laid back, not really the type to let it rip in the pasture and although I think it's unlikely he twisted himself out there you never know.
He is a little on the lazy side and he tends to do it more after we've been doing a lot of trotting or I push him to lengthen his stride. Maybe he's trying to get out of working?
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post #6 of 6 Old 10-10-2013, 03:08 PM
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My horse was doing this when he was coming into fitness 2 years ago. Or if I tip my shoulders forward.
Try rolling your shoulders back and execute a half halt. If your trotting then keep him at a trot. Half halt.
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