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        04-16-2013, 03:56 PM
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    Weanling
    Troubles..

    Hi everyone, I need some help. Now before you criticize, I am going to school in September and bringing this horse along with me. During the course, I will be teaching him in depth, but I just need to get him to a certain point.

    He is a 16hh Quarter Horse gelding built like a tank. As I have learned today, he is very attached to his new friend. I tried to get him to go through a gate to get him to the round pen but he would not go through, so I decided to work in the field. He needs some practice leading because he crowds a lot. So as I was brushing him today in the field (which is 30 acres) he decided to yank the lead rope out of my hand and run away to his buddy. As I approached him, his buddy ran away and he followed. I spent 3 hours following him around and wasn't successful. I'm not sure what to do.
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        04-16-2013, 03:59 PM
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    He's buddy sour......I'd get him away from his buddy (I'd get someone to help you with it if you need) put him in a separate pen away from that other horse.....out of sight. If he acts like a dink, tie him up and let him deal with it and don't untie him until he's quit fussing. A tree in the shade works well.
         
        04-16-2013, 03:59 PM
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    Weanling
    FYI, I DO have a trainer, which he is boarded at right now, but the trainer would like me to work with him by myself first.
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        04-16-2013, 04:03 PM
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    Weanling
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    He's buddy sour......I'd get him away from his buddy (I'd get someone to help you with it if you need) put him in a separate pen away from that other horse.....out of sight. If he acts like a dink, tie him up and let him deal with it and don't untie him until he's quit fussing. A tree in the shade works well.
    To put him in a separate pen, I'd need to get him to the round pen (which he would have to walk through the gate). I don't think he will go through the gate because its so close to the electric fence and he got a good zap yesterday.
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        04-16-2013, 04:06 PM
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    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Muppetgirl    
    He's buddy sour......I'd get him away from his buddy (I'd get someone to help you with it if you need) put him in a separate pen away from that other horse.....out of sight. If he acts like a dink, tie him up and let him deal with it and don't untie him until he's quit fussing. A tree in the shade works well.
    This, 100%. Don't give into the bleeding heart cries either, lol. Other helpful hints for this: Bell boots and leg protection, just incase.
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        04-16-2013, 04:06 PM
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    Showing
    You need to stop making excuses for him, Java. I don't give my horses an option for what they will or won't do. I say do it, and they're expected to comply.

    Sure, it's annoying when you have a horse who's that herdbound, but until you get him away from his buddy you're going to make absolutely zero progress with him.

    Your trainer is right; you're taking him with you to college so YOU need to know how to control him. She can already do it, but that does you no good when you're far away and on your own.
         
        04-16-2013, 04:07 PM
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    Originally Posted by JavaLover    
    To put him in a separate pen, I'd need to get him to the round pen (which he would have to walk through the gate). I don't think he will go through the gate because its so close to the electric fence and he got a good zap yesterday.
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    Can you get someone to help you get him in there? Can you put a butt rope on him and get him in?

    Do you have a pen he can stay in permanently away from the other horse?

    I can see you need help right now, and others are going to come and say 'he wants to be with his friend so he doesn't see you as a leader' etc etc etc....once you get him away and let him have his tantrum he will settle down.....it's just getting him into a different pen or the round pen.

    Hmmmm yes a zap from a fence is a pretty big deterrent to most horses!
         
        04-16-2013, 04:19 PM
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    Weanling
    I'm not making excuses for him, I'm asking for help. I'm not sure where to put him. My trainer has 4 pens - the giant pasture, the smaller pen (the roundpen is inside of this pen), the round pen, and the boarder pen.. I'm not sure he can stay in the round pen because he works on horses in there. He's only been there for two days - my trainer said he shouldn't be herd bound already.
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        04-16-2013, 04:39 PM
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    Started
    Is he getting grain at all? I find a huge motivator for my horses to go somewhere they don't want to go is to feel a little hunger. Put his food in the round pen, he don't eat until he goes in. Since this is a horse that a challenge to catch (hence your three hour escapade) I think catching him and traumatically forcing him through an area he does not like could result in him being harder to catch.

    I would also say you need to separate them. Not forever but for a few hours. He needs to learn that he leaves his buddies and he goes back to his buddies and the world does not end. I would also say if you are going to brush him then tie him up or even better take him out of the pasture and tie him up.
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        04-17-2013, 05:21 PM
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    Weanling
    I called my trainer last night and explained my dilemma to him. He didn't seem to think the other horse was adding to the problem, but he separated them this morning for me before I arrived. Ares approached me in the field, let me halter him, lead him around, and brush him without any incidents. He is learning to stay out of my space. The problem that I am working on now is that he sometimes stops in the middle of our walk. I usually just pretend to keep walking forward and he follows, or give him a little smack with the lead rope. Is there any other way to overcome this?
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