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        04-17-2013, 05:27 PM
      #11
    Green Broke
    Just be consistent, the second you feel him slow down give a light tug /kiss/tap do he doesn't stop. Also some horses it doesn't take long to attach to another horse, especially if they are insecure. Just take him out as much as possible .
         
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        04-17-2013, 05:29 PM
      #12
    Weanling
    This is my boyfriend walking him yesterday, before the mishap

    Corey walking Ares - YouTube
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        04-17-2013, 05:31 PM
      #13
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by BarrelracingArabian    
    Just be consistent, the second you feel him slow down give a light tug /kiss/tap do he doesn't stop. Also some horses it doesn't take long to attach to another horse, especially if they are insecure. Just take him out as much as possible .
    He does get along well with the herd, he just really got attached to this horse. I am trying to work with him as much as possible; visiting him, walking him, feeding him, etc
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        04-18-2013, 02:27 PM
      #14
    Foal
    Java, after reading your post and watching the video I had a pretty good idea of what was going on but one post is only a snapshot. Before posting a comment I did a little homework and read your threads going back to 2009. You aren't new to horses and have access to knowable people so that's not the problem. Also we can nitpick individual horses training, bad experiences etc. but the one consistant element in all of these horse snags your having is you.
    I do not know you or anything about your life and what's going on but what I see in this thread and in your others is that you're having trouble with commanding the horse's respect and attention.
    This is likely sounding like a jerky response. It's not intended to be in any way. If you go back and look at the problems you've had with various horses it all comes down to a matter of the horse not respecting you. I think you know what you're supposed to do and what the horse is supposed to do but that message is getting lost. The saddle thing is a red herring. One less than optimal experience is not going to traumatize a horse. He can relearn saddles in about 10 minutes of positive experience. And just as quick as he can relearn that he can learn to respect you and feel safe with you. Unfortunately you just spent three hours teaching him that you are HIS follower.
    Like I said, I don't have any idea what is going on in your life but what I see is that your head in not fully in the game. Your horse is not trying to take advantage of you, he's just trying not to get eaten. And that means following the guy who's paying attention is smarter than he is.
    Bottom line: You know what to do. Stay focused and dialed in. He'll respond in kind.
         
        04-18-2013, 10:06 PM
      #15
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GreenBackJack    
    Java, after reading your post and watching the video I had a pretty good idea of what was going on but one post is only a snapshot. Before posting a comment I did a little homework and read your threads going back to 2009. You aren't new to horses and have access to knowable people so that's not the problem. Also we can nitpick individual horses training, bad experiences etc. but the one consistant element in all of these horse snags your having is you.
    I do not know you or anything about your life and what's going on but what I see in this thread and in your others is that you're having trouble with commanding the horse's respect and attention.
    This is likely sounding like a jerky response. It's not intended to be in any way. If you go back and look at the problems you've had with various horses it all comes down to a matter of the horse not respecting you. I think you know what you're supposed to do and what the horse is supposed to do but that message is getting lost. The saddle thing is a red herring. One less than optimal experience is not going to traumatize a horse. He can relearn saddles in about 10 minutes of positive experience. And just as quick as he can relearn that he can learn to respect you and feel safe with you. Unfortunately you just spent three hours teaching him that you are HIS follower.
    Like I said, I don't have any idea what is going on in your life but what I see is that your head in not fully in the game. Your horse is not trying to take advantage of you, he's just trying not to get eaten. And that means following the guy who's paying attention is smarter than he is.
    Bottom line: You know what to do. Stay focused and dialed in. He'll respond in kind.
    Thank you for the honest response. I do have a very hard time demanding respect with horses, I know that. Sometimes I just feel like I'm not doing things right and new a little push in the right direction.
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        04-18-2013, 10:27 PM
      #16
    Showing
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    Originally Posted by JavaLover    
    I usually just pretend to keep walking forward and he follows, or give him a little smack with the lead rope. Is there any other way to overcome this?
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    This is a really good start. Now do one step better and as another poster said when you feel him begin to slow down, ask him to pick up the pace again. Cluck to him, swing the excess rope in your offside hand towards his rump as you keep walking until he makes a change. Then just go back to normally walking him.
         
        04-19-2013, 12:25 AM
      #17
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
    This is a really good start. Now do one step better and as another poster said when you feel him begin to slow down, ask him to pick up the pace again. Cluck to him, swing the excess rope in your offside hand towards his rump as you keep walking until he makes a change. Then just go back to normally walking him.
    I will do this!
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        04-19-2013, 10:22 AM
      #18
    Started
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    you're having trouble with commanding the horse's respect and attention.
    this sounds like exactly it. Have you ever tried doing some Clinton anderson groundwork? He's pretty good at respect building excercises.
         
        04-19-2013, 11:51 AM
      #19
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by BlueSpark    
    this sounds like exactly it. Have you ever tried doing some Clinton anderson groundwork? He's pretty good at respect building excercises.
    I haven't, I'm not very familiar with his work. Do you perhaps know any?
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        04-19-2013, 02:29 PM
      #20
    Weanling
    I have made the decision to move my horse to a new trainer starting June 1st
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