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    07-03-2012, 09:31 PM
  #1
Weanling
TWH Question

Ok , I was told that my TWH Cash was never taught to back up ? The reason was because he was padded ? I had asked the previous owner why he wouldn't back up and she said that when she go him the he had been a padded horse , I believe that is how she has put it ? Why would you get a horse padded and why wouldn't you teach a horse to "back"? Needless to say he used to not back up for me AT ALL but now we are currently up to 3 steps back at a time and we do it about 5 or 6 times a session , so that is a big improvement I believe !!
     
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    07-03-2012, 09:48 PM
  #2
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If he was on pads, that is a/k/a packages, a/k/a the Big Lick Performance Horses.

He not only doesn't know how to back up but I'll bet dollars to donuts he can't neck rein either.

Doesn't matter, you can teach him. TWH's have wonderfully big hearts and an eagerness to please --- it's what gets them into so much trouble with unsavory and unethical horse trainers.

If that's all you have to be worried about with a horse that used to be on pads, kiss the ground he gaits on

Since his name is Cash, if that's on his papers, he is most likely from the Coin's Hard Cash line. I LOVED that horse; got to smooch his snoot at Dr. Womack's<---- oopsie, no I didn't, it was Cash For Keeps I spent and hour loving on - lol

Cash For Keeps was Lite Shod.
http://www.twhbea.com/voice/features/cashforkeeps.htm

Here's Coin's Hard Cash on "pads"; they only wear them on the front. This is what the lady was referring to.
http://www.walkerswest.com/Champs/CoinsHardCash.htm
     
    07-03-2012, 09:52 PM
  #3
Weanling
Wow ! You are right he can't neck rein lol !! I know the woman I got him off of said she showed him ...I think she said the pads was on his feet from the weight of the shoes? I am not sure , he was given to me and I am very blessed just curious to his backround !
     
    07-03-2012, 09:58 PM
  #4
Weanling
Its common for saddletype horses (that show "larger") to not know how to back up correctly-They are trained to go forward and never look back lol- I doubt it was just because of his shoes/pads- He simply never had to.
But at least its teachable!
     
    07-03-2012, 10:01 PM
  #5
Weanling
But what are the pads for ? What would a horse have to be showed in to even have them and what other problems might I have ?
     
    07-03-2012, 10:07 PM
  #6
Showing
My horse Sky didn't know how to back up. We're slowly teaching him on ground and under saddle. It's very teachable as long as you think "less is more" as in.. ask for 1 step backward first, and slowly build up to 2, 3, 4.. then add in poles to back up over as well.

Reward his attempts.
     
    07-03-2012, 10:17 PM
  #7
Weanling
That is what we are working on right now , and he seems to be doing well! He is such a sweety
     
    07-03-2012, 10:32 PM
  #8
Green Broke
Never had a horse on stacks/pads so don't know how difficult it would be but I imagine it's not easy for them so they don't get taught. There is also a line of teaching out there that you don't need to teach a horse to back as they do it naturally. With that, if you teach them to get comfortable backing up then they will try it as an escape mechanism.
     
    07-03-2012, 11:19 PM
  #9
Weanling
If he was padded or stacked he was probably shown as a Big Lick and they are generally only taught to go forward. It's all about the gait and backing is not necessary under saddle for show (I'm not agreeing just stating the truth). I used to train and show Saddlebreds and it's very common in gaited horses.

The pads are to add more weight to get them to lift their legs higher and also to shift the center of balance farther back. Think of it this way, if all the action is on the front, the more weight you can shift tot he hind end the more freedom they will have on the front to lift. That's why a very deep angle in the shoulder is desirable and why the saddleseat saddle and rider are seated farther back. You have a horse that was taught to move forward with speed and action so now you are going to have to teach him the opposite.

Good luck.
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    07-03-2012, 11:37 PM
  #10
Weanling
My boy doesn't have much speed lol..but than again I am just getting him back into riding after 4 years! He needs to lose some weight and gain some muscle for sure!
     

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