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    07-09-2013, 12:32 AM
Originally Posted by Ellieandrose    
Dads got a new car that can pull the float so ill be taking her out probably every weekend. I will nip this in the but. Just hope it doesnt take longer then two years to get a slight improvement. I'm thinking about changing her to a figure 8 noseband as well as she is currently in a cavason with a flash. I'm also thinking it MAY be the bit as she has quite a low pallet and if she has more pressure on her mouth then she'd prefer she try's crossing her jaw. I'm not one for 'bitting up', I currently have her in a French link egg but snaffle with moderate thickness. Dressage and flat work she's fine in it, jumping she puts up with it and that's when she crosses.
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It very well could be the bit. My horse used to have a nasty habit of bolting and it was definitely the bit. After that it was a case of re-training the habit out of him and it didn't take long at all.

EDITED TO ADD: Also my horse misbehaved in a flash cavesson noseband. He'd chomp like crazy. So once I got rid of that, he also was more comfortable.

I feel it's a tack/behavior issue.

I wish you all the best!
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    07-09-2013, 12:34 AM
Thanks sky!
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    07-09-2013, 12:38 AM
Originally Posted by Ellieandrose    
Thanks sky!
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You're welcome
    07-09-2013, 11:21 PM
If she's an ottb, jig jogging is her responce to exciting environments. Instead of manking her walk, try pushing her forward into trot. Do lots of circles, change the rein, Shoulder in (if she knows it). Keep her guessing and focusing on you.

When she jogs, do you take your leg off? Try keeping your leg on lightly - my gelding used to be an absolute prat in dressage tests because as soon as I would touch him, he would shoot off. I now ride with more leg than I used to and I can get a pretty good test out of him.
My instructor likens it to giving your horse a big hug, saying "its ok buddy, I am here for you, I am with you, we will be fine." Sounds strange, I thought he was nuts but hey it works with both my boys, as soon as they get nervey, leg on, ride them forward and they settle.

Don't give her too big a circle to work on. 15-20m should be fine.

Is there a loud speaker at the events? My OTTB used to get worked up by the loud speaker - it reminded him of his racing days... I took him to a big event and left him in the float yards, right next to the cross county course near a loud speaker so he could hear the commentary. :) It took him an hour or so or running like an idiot, but he eventually settled down and the next time he was at a show with a loud speaker, there was no jig jogging or bad behaviour.

Before chilling out, scary 3* horses in the distance, loud speaker behind him.. Terrifying.

2 hours later, after a walk around to the XC warm up, investigating SJ warm up areas and watching about 20 horses go past him on XC.

Do you get nervous and stressed when taking her out? She will be picking up on that too. Get a good night's sleep before the outing. Maybe ask you mum and dad if you could take St Johns Wort which will help with stress levels? Blackmores make a good suppliment which you can get from the chemist. St John's Wort - Mood & Relaxation Support - Blackmores

Also Rescue Remedy can help with fear, anxiousness, nerves and all those associate feelings. I take it myself and also give it to my horses. You can get it from the chemist too :)
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Good luck, let us know how you go :)
    07-10-2013, 12:57 AM
She is tb but never even trialled. I have taken her to big events and I always yard near the rego section which is where the pa is. When I first started taking her out the pa did make her jump but now she's over them. If I push her in to a trot she takes that and will have her typical outting type spazz (ie doing what ever it takes to get me off). I don't think I'm nervous but you never know. I'm currently on Prozac so I'll have to look in to what I can actually take. Since rescue remedy is alcohol based its swabable. I was thinking about putting her on B-quiet from Kentucky Equine Research. I'm going out to a clinic next week that is doing ground work then dressage the jumping so we'll see how that goes!
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    07-10-2013, 02:17 AM
Holy macaroni! If my horse tried to throw me off every time I asked her to go forward, I'd be a nervous wreck!!!! Well, I'd be nervous if I were still alive, that is. It sounds like you have been going through this for a time.
I would take the suggestion of changing the bit and maybe headstall. At least that is a good start. And be as calm as you can be. If that doesn't solve the issue I seriously would seek professional help. I'm sure there is a reason for her actions but they can be dangerous if not addressed.
Stay safe and I hope you and your horse can work this out. There are some very good posts on this forum regarding some of these problems...wish I could remember where exactly. Try looking at some of the "stickies" at the top of the Training threads. I'm sure someone will pop in and point you in the right direction. : )
    07-10-2013, 09:08 AM
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Just a random thought to add.. she throws you and then goes where? Do you get back on? If she runs until she is tired, get back on and make her work. Stop when you say stop.

I wonder if she hasn't learned something about tossing you and avoiding work.

This horse is the one controlling her feet, not you. You need to train that first... that you own her feet.
    07-10-2013, 11:01 AM
She heads back to where I had her yarded/her stable ect but once I get up I get straight back on and we work harder. No matter how much pain I'm in, stupid I know. Ha. I have to give it to her though, lately she has been just standing there looking at me wondering why I'm on the ground. She reared and I slid off her back at a small show we went to on sunday (in a class no less) and she stood there. I got back on and finished the class!

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