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post #1 of 8 Old 06-26-2010, 10:27 PM Thread Starter
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Tying Issues

I am around alot of young horses that are just learning to stand at cross ties or even just being tied up. I find that just letting them spend time being tied calms them down and they can stand there forever.

However, I have this draft cross that paws at the ground constantly. He stands fine for a while, but then he'll just start pawing and I'm concerned that he could clip me with his hoof when I'm grooming him. Any tips on getting him to stop? Sometimes he just holds his leg up there and avoids me when I try and get him to stop.

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post #2 of 8 Old 06-26-2010, 11:39 PM
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Does he only do this when he's tied or does he do it at other times...like when you're riding him and he's standing still? Does he do it no matter how he's tied?

Do you have access to a safe area with a high tie?

Sometimes a horse like this needs to spend a long time safely tied in an area until he learns to stand still. I've had horses tied for hours in a high tie figeting and moving around and pawing. I don't come get them until they are standing quietly and do this for some time. It really works. Horses are pretty smart and realize there is nothing to get agitated about when they are tied if they don't know if they're going to be tied for 5 minutes or 5 hours. Of course you need to do this in a humane way. It shouldn't be too hot and/or the horse should have some shade. The tie area must be absolutely safe and set up such that a horse has no way to get caught up on anything. Always have some kind of supervision on a horse in a high tie. This method isn't everyone's favorite, but I have found that it works wonders.
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post #3 of 8 Old 06-27-2010, 12:58 AM
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At racetracks around where I live, they put a strap right above the horses knees that had chains attached.

When the horse tried to paw the chains would hit the inside of the leg, making it annoying to the horse.

I actually found this method really effective, since some horses would act like their legs were gone and would stand there.
There were a few that were not annoyed by the chain, so i guess its just a hit or miss if your horse responds to this kind of aid.
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post #4 of 8 Old 06-27-2010, 09:25 AM
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If it were my horse I would hobble it until it learned to stand quietly.

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^^ exactly.

Pawing when tied is a big no no in my book. My horses get a lot of lessons on standing quietly when tied. I don't understand why some people don't teach their horse these skills.

I would use my dressage whip, and everytime he brought his foot up I would say NO very loud, and give a tap. It wouldn't take very many taps before he realizes it is unacceptable.

Spent a whole hour today laying in a pasture, waiting for a sparkling vampire to show up. Alas, I woke up and looked over, only to find a mound of horse crap. Sigh.
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Thanks everyone, thats all pretty good advice. He doesn't paw EVERY time I tie him up, so I'm not sure if just tying him for long periods of time would work, but I might do it anyway because its not like he stands really quietly.

I don't have a hobble, but I may carry my crop with me if the being-tied-for-long-periods-of-time doesn't work. Thanks!

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You can buy a pair of hobbles for around ten dollars.

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I hobbled both the two young horses I worked with last year, at one point or other; they would tie great most of the time, but there were days that they would just paw...so I brought out the hobbles and let them figure it out; when they were quiet once more I would take the hobble off, and they would usually be fine...

I've also just made them shift their weight back onto their front ends, by asking them to yield their hind ends...I don't normally cross tie, so I can make them move quite a bit! then I just go back to what I was doing, and they would normally be quiet again; horses are lazy...make them move their feet when they don't want to, or if they are fidgity, make them move their feet where you want them too, and they catch on that standing still is the best option...

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