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post #1 of 11 Old 05-17-2012, 06:45 PM Thread Starter
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Unable to catch 2yo stud--CJ



This is my sister's 1 and a half year old stud colt. He's a nightmare to catch and I usually spend an hour or two just to catching him. I've tried to bribe him, I've free lunged him, I've left him alone until he'd come up to me.. I've tried everything I can possibly think of. He only does this when I (or anyone else) has a lead rope and halter with them. He doesn't like to be caught unless it's on his terms. He is in with three geldings (he will be gelded in the fall hopefully) and when they are all caught and taken out, he doesn't care. He's not buddy sour, which is good-ish, but he just doesn't notice them leave or something..

My sister has spent many hours in the arena they are in (not pasture due to one of the geldings foundering..) with this colt and anyone can walk up to him to pet him, so long as there is no halter and lead rope. He's very friendly and all, but his studly manners are kicking in and he is a nightmare to lead half the time. I am tired of chasing this stallion around for two hours just to catch him and he's not even my horse! My sister can't even catch him and neither can my aunt, uncle, or cousin. We need serious help with this colt. He's going to a trainer in the fall so that's nothing to worry about, but it's the catching part that we need to get down on him.

Please help us!

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post #2 of 11 Old 05-17-2012, 06:52 PM
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One suggestion could be to use treats. Not as a bribe, but a reward. Take a pail of grain with you (or anything he likes) and your rope. Hang it over the bucket to start with so that he can only get the goodies if he approaches the rope/halter. If he allows it, touch him all over with the rope while he is eating but do not try to catch him.
Do this several times over several days until he starts to see you and the rope as a good thing. Then when you catch him, maybe lead him a few feet and release him again. This way he doesn't really associate the rope and halter with anything.
A problem like this always takes time and patience.
Just remember not to give him anything without the rope in your hand. Carry one with you at all times when you are around him and always be touching him with it until he is no longer leery of it.

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post #3 of 11 Old 05-17-2012, 07:00 PM Thread Starter
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Alright, well I will be with him all weekend so I will try this and see if it works.

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post #4 of 11 Old 05-17-2012, 07:01 PM
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I do the treat rewards with my gelding. I stand there and get closer and closer with the rope. Each time he allows me to put my hands on him I reward him and reward for the longer he stands and let's me it the rope over his neck, take it off, and repeat.

He's gotten much better. The other day he actually walked up to me from across the pasture with a rope in my hand. The rope has become a positive thing for him now.
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post #5 of 11 Old 05-17-2012, 07:08 PM Thread Starter
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I also forgot to mention up top there that he had been with a herd of horses that were abandoned when he was probably a month old and then the herd was soon caught and sent to auction. Would that be part of the negativity towards the rope possibly? It's not humans anymore.. That was a long 5 hours for my sister.. and a year for everyone else.. But I have never seen any horse afraid of ropes and halters before CJ came along and it's boggling my mind.

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For hard to catch horses. I keep a string of baling twine in my back pocket. They don't know it's there and I can get to them without them running. Then BAM, it's around their neck and they are caught. LoL

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post #7 of 11 Old 05-18-2012, 09:54 AM
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Im going to be the mean one here. WHY IS HE A STUD???????? First geld him.
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We can't geld him when his balls haven't dropped yet, cowboy. And you can still work with stallions; people do it all the time.
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We can't geld him when his balls haven't dropped yet, cowboy. And you can still work with stallions; people do it all the time.
Why can't you geld him. I know several people that geld them as weanlings. And yeah but if your not really experianced with stallions they are harder to work with and need a skilled hand.
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post #10 of 11 Old 05-18-2012, 12:09 PM
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We can't geld him when his balls haven't dropped yet, cowboy. And you can still work with stallions; people do it all the time.
Actually, it is entirely possible for gelding to be done before the testes have decended - not saying you should or should not, simply disputing your assertion that you "can't". That, however, is neither here nor there to your actual question......
Start carrying your halter and lead with you ALL the time when you go out to the horses. Let it become part of your body. Once it becomes just another "thing" that he sees all the time (and is not ONLY used to catch him and do things he doesn't want to do), it loses it's "run away" factor. Be especially sure to carry it during times you go out ot do good things such as feed, etc -- and things that have nothing to do with having direct contact with the horses (such as cleaning, maintenance, etc). Once it has become part of you, start using it to "pet him up" with it - rub him all over and do everything but put it on his head. Proceed to building positive association with wearing the halter. Start putting it on and taking it off. Put it on and make something positive happen (extra pets, treats if that's your thing, etc) and take it off. Put the halter on and walk away and let him wear it a bit w/out being attached to a lead and made to do any work. Basically you are building a hundred and one associations OTHER than being haltered and lead around --- and making it just another thing.
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