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    01-05-2011, 04:45 PM
  #1
Weanling
University of Montana- Western

Hi everyone. I've learned over time, especially while being here, to always be a little skeptical of "natural horsemanship." I am in no way saying all natural horsemanship is bad, just that I don't want to throw myself into it without taking GOOD notes about it first.
So University of Montana-Western has a Natural Horsemanship major category. The one major is Natural Horsemanship, but you pick from different "paths" after you complete the core courses. The paths are science, management, and psychology. They have a general equine management major in addition, but it is more aimed towards the business side of horses.
It seems legitimate but classes like this make me a little skeptical:
EQST 252 NH: Building a Relationship TBD 3
EQST 254 NH: Harmony with/Horse I TBD 3
EQST 255 NH: Harmony w/Horse II TBD 3
EQST 351 NH: Refining the Foundation I TBD 4

EQST 352 NH: Refining the Foundation II
They're not bad, per se, but the fact that they use terms like "harmony with the horse" is a little odd, and very informal. I'm beginning to get the impression that this is aimed towards people who have little or no experience with horses and think the idea of "natural" horsemanship is cute or something.
What do you think? Should I raise a MAJOR eyebrow, or should I look at it more? I've already looked at it a lot, and nothing has helped much.
Thanks in advance!

Course catalog (pg 81 and 82 for NH studies. You need Adobe to open it.) http://my.umwestern.edu/registrar/ca...11_Catalog.pdf
Their website: The University of Montana Western
     
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    01-05-2011, 05:50 PM
  #2
Trained
Their program is good. Dillon is about an hour away from my city and it's a very small but nice town. For your riding lessons though you will have to travel/trailer out to the La Cense center (GORGEOUS place) which is about 20 minutes or so from campus.

It's a program that you get what you put into it. I have seen some awesome horses and instructors come from there and some I have a hard time believing have ever been around a horse.

They do block scheduling which I am not a fan of but a lot of people love. So instead of doing say 4 classes over the semester you do one or two classes at a time but in 'blocks' where they're more intensive short term courses. Can't really explain it better...

It is a more western oriented school. They have a very successful rodeo team. Their IHSA team is fairly mediocre.

There are plenty of internships and working student opportunities.

One of the reasons that I didn't go though was it was a little too fluffy for me. I went and observed a lesson and I definitely got the 'Your horse is your best friend, if you hit him you are an evil evil monster'. But then again, I am not a "natural horsemanship" person. They do have an Equine Science program there that is just awesome.

Billings or Missoula overall has a much better program even though western is known as "the ag school". Bigger cities if that's what your into and more opportunity for showing, etc.

Let me know if I can help with anything else
     
    01-05-2011, 07:19 PM
  #3
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Spastic_Dove    
Their program is good. Dillon is about an hour away from my city and it's a very small but nice town. For your riding lessons though you will have to travel/trailer out to the La Cense center (GORGEOUS place) which is about 20 minutes or so from campus.

It's a program that you get what you put into it. I have seen some awesome horses and instructors come from there and some I have a hard time believing have ever been around a horse.

They do block scheduling which I am not a fan of but a lot of people love. So instead of doing say 4 classes over the semester you do one or two classes at a time but in 'blocks' where they're more intensive short term courses. Can't really explain it better...

It is a more western oriented school. They have a very successful rodeo team. Their IHSA team is fairly mediocre.

There are plenty of internships and working student opportunities.

One of the reasons that I didn't go though was it was a little too fluffy for me. I went and observed a lesson and I definitely got the 'Your horse is your best friend, if you hit him you are an evil evil monster'. But then again, I am not a "natural horsemanship" person. They do have an Equine Science program there that is just awesome.

Billings or Missoula overall has a much better program even though western is known as "the ag school". Bigger cities if that's what your into and more opportunity for showing, etc.

Let me know if I can help with anything else
That was a BEAUTIFUL assessment. Thank you so much!

I am not really into "that fluffy stuff," and I also live very far away from Montana (New Jersey). I'm going through all 11 pages of colleges with IHSA teams, crossing off any that don't have a half decent Ag program. Distance isn't as much an issue as simply finding the right college. One college I have right now may as well be in Alaska! Lastly, I ride English. I did get the impression from the website that they were predominantly Western. Thank you for confirming that.

Any other comments from anyone?
     
    01-05-2011, 07:28 PM
  #4
Trained
Hey weird! I moved here from South Jersey to Montana in highschool!


Goodluck! There's quite a few equine college threads you can search for here. Or just start a one generally to get recommendations on other ones and you will probably get more responses. I know there are members here who have gone to some good equine programs.
     
    01-05-2011, 10:14 PM
  #5
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Spastic_Dove    
Hey weird! I moved here from South Jersey to Montana in highschool!


Goodluck! There's quite a few equine college threads you can search for here. Or just start a one generally to get recommendations on other ones and you will probably get more responses. I know there are members here who have gone to some good equine programs.
Yeah, I've looked into those threads a bit. They're pretty helpful!

That's cool! Jersey is the densest state in the country, after all. We have more people than even coincidences can count for.
     
    01-05-2011, 10:33 PM
  #6
Yearling
Montana schools have really good programs. If you want to go to college though. May I suggest somewhere closer? Vermont Technical College in Randolph Center, Vermont. Its a really amazing school and their Equine Science program is a four year bachelors degree with a minor in business. I know the owner of the co-op barn that you would be taking lessons in, Leslie and she does natrual horsemanship. So you take a class on that. You also do riding lessons and stuff on breeding and EVERYTHING you can imagine there. It is a bit difficult to get into, they only take 15 people a year for safety reasons. But Daine Carleton is the director of the program and she is GREAT. If you email her a million questions she will answer all of them. I got in but sadly didn't have enough to go when it came time. But I hope someday I can go back and do it. The website is Vermont Technical College Then just click on programs and its under there. It is also VERY beautiful campus.
     
    01-05-2011, 11:04 PM
  #7
Weanling
I think Vermont Technical is on my long list now. I have to shorten it soon.

I'm really on the fence about staying close. Personal preference, and also a long time boyfriend moving to California soon makes me not feel bad about going so far. Travel costs are not much of an issue.
     
    01-06-2011, 03:01 PM
  #8
Yearling
Yeah, I really wanted to do to Montana to a college in Miles City, but there was like no way to get there! The closest airport I could find you still have to drive like 4 hours to get there so it was too hard to visit. So I didn't want to go to a place that I couldn't see and might not like. But Vermont Tech is very awesome. Small campus, they do ALL kinds of stuff for free. Its really great. The barn is HUGE, plus you can bring your own horse if you have one. They have double wide indoor with heated tack room. The tack room has these big windows in it so you can see in the riding ring, super cool. Everyone who I have met there are really friendly too and all the teachers are super cool. I also got into Post University, Becker College, and Mount IDA. But I didn't like those schools as much. If you are more into the city type places they are nicer. Well Post was actually my second choice because they were nicer, but VTC really blew them all away.
     

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