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    11-25-2012, 12:48 PM
Thank you for your replies everyone... he is in an 18X28 pen (might not be exact measurements but close!) So he's got a little bit of room to move around if he feel he needs to. He is also by himself. Every time I go to see him I start by mucking out his pen and doing my own thing so its not just walk-in and start trying to touch him. After I'm done he's usually within 7 feet of me. Ill put my hand out and he'll take a few seconds to think about it and then he'll walk closer to me. At that point, he gave into my pressure so I will put my hand back down and take a few steps back. He generally licks his lips at this point and gets more comfortable with me. He will generally get curious enough and take a few steps forward but he never fully gets right next to me unless I walk up to him. He is extremely head shy. I'm not sure if the girl before me roped him up to touch him or what but he acts as if someones hit him in the head a few times.
About a week ago when he was falling asleep next to me, I put my hand out and grazed his shoulder, in which he trembled and then started to move away but didn't run. So I know he's getting more comfortable with me but he's got a belly on him that I know needs worming
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    11-25-2012, 12:50 PM
*posted before I was done*
And his hooves are past due for a trim.
Ian if you are up for a challenge then feel free to visit clovis! (:
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    11-25-2012, 02:11 PM
Have you gotten him addicted to treats yet? The yumminess of treats has been the undoing of many a timid horse. That was another breakthrough we had with my yearling before I was able to touch him: getting him to take treats from the palm of my hand.
    11-25-2012, 02:21 PM
If your could get one or two people to hold him still long enough to get a halter and lead on it you could maybe make things easier for yourself in getting him used to being touched. I have had to do this before when my colt Jet was attacked by a dog he was not halter broke and he suddenly need me to be able to touch him to apply medication to his 17 stitches everyday. Before this happened he would come up to the same way your colt is coming to you I could maybe get him to check me out stiff my hand some. But he now needed shots and meds so that wasn't going to work anymore. My vet grabbed him by the ear and neck and I slipped a halter with a lead in as quick as I could. Then I let him go and I let him sit for a bit and calm down. Then once he relaxed I grabbed on to his rope and made my very slow approach to him when I went to him I didn't look at him directly but more through the side of my eye when he got a little sacred I'd stop for a bit watch his body then approach again. When I was stopped my body was angled to where my shoulder was pointing to him and was looking indirectly at him. Eventually I got to close to his nose I held my hand out with my shoulders pointing at him not really facing him and I waited for him to reach out and sniff me. Since I could hold onto him I ended the day by touching the front of his face. You sound like your touching then retreating that is good. I left a short rope on Jet after that so I could catch him I'm not a big fan of drag lines personally but I don't have a place where that would be safe anyways. I had a short rope that would fray if he mananged to snag it somewhere I didn't want him getting hung up. Anyways I'd slowly approach him everyday till you could grab the rope once I had the rope he couldn't escape so I started out just petting the face once that was going good maybe the next day I'd go for the neck and so on. I'd keep it pretty short and sweet and I'd just sit out there and pet him and rub him and talk to him each day going a little farther. Though during this I still had to scare him by putting a cleaning solution on his dog bite on his hind quarter it was a massive wound on a month old colt. And plus he had to have a antibiotic shot. So I would periodically catch him a few times a day and pet him so he didn't feel like I was always there to kill him lol. After about a week or so I could touch him all over. So the moral of the story is if you wrangle him an halter him your not going to traumatize him for life. I can't go anywhere without Jet being right next to me in the horse pasture he is better trained and mannered then many horses much older than him. When he's old enough to break to ride next summer it will be nothing to get on his back and get him going. Now if you don't want to do that you don't have to. I'd brush up on learning to join up and then you can establish a mental halter. My dunskin colt isn't entirely trusting of me so I can't always walk up and grab him so I ask him to join up and he come to me instead of me going to him. If you want to keep him loose keep working on trying to touch his face neck shoulder then maybe you can sneak a rope around his neck and grab him long enough to halter him. My need another person there to help you halter.

This isn't a training video this is me just playing around with my two yearling colts and asking them to join and follow. Maybe it could help you with the body language of the join up. When I snap its to get thier attention babies have short attention spans. When I lose thier attention I just ask for it again. Even that dun colt who is still a little nervous about people will follow me all over that pasture if I asked him to. It takes time to figure it out but once you do you catch your horse even when they don't want you to. My adult horses are on fifteen acres and occasionally they won't let me catch them so we do the join up exercise and then I can catch them. If may take me asking a few times but it ends with then coming with me . Hope this helps the video was taken with my iPhone with it sitting on my gate.
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    11-25-2012, 02:29 PM
Sorry didn't mean for that to get so long lol. Sorry for any typo's I'm using my phone so auto correct probably screwed up what I typed here and there. Good luck with your new baby.
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    11-25-2012, 02:37 PM
Originally Posted by MissKriss    
*posted before I was done*
And his hooves are past due for a trim.
Ian if you are up for a challenge then feel free to visit clovis! (:
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I'm just pullin yer tail lol. It's like 160 miles away. I'd have to charge LOTS OF MONEY! Then I'll have ARRIVED as a horse whisperer and everyone will start saying that I'm all marketing.
    11-25-2012, 11:05 PM
Thank you for the advice PBR I appreciate it!! I have been working on the "join up" exercise with him a bit already but he still needs improving. I've also taken some notes from the video you posted as well. I completely forgot to mention before that when he gets scared he bites as well. He used to strike and hasn't done it in a while, but those few times I have barely grazed his shoulder, he qwivers and then tries to turn and bite you hand. Still never pins his ears though.

Another reason to get a halter on him as soon as I can : the FLIES!! > Poor guy!
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    11-25-2012, 11:43 PM
Spend time with him, get a halter on and bond with him. I had an untouched yearling. I got her 2 months ago. I spent time with her. Started training. Now I call her and she runs up to the gate.
    11-25-2012, 11:57 PM
Awe he's adorable. If you can get a few guys to wrangle him Id just go for it and get that halter on him that way he can get the necessary care he needs. Know anyone that can throw a lasso? Let me know if you have any questions you can always PM me I've owned many colts. I like to buy my horses as babies and train them myself. I hope my video helped its not great but you can atleast show you my body language and the colts. Remember look at him indirectly take it slow don't make a lot of eye contact as it can perceived as a predatory threat or aggression. Point your shoulder at his face/nose. Arm is extended outward but lowered hand is neutral and relaxed. Approach when the colt is looking at you. Once you get a halter on him you can address the behavior problems. Remember the key to colt training is short sessions and lots of patience. If he's coming to sniff you that's a good sign of progress. I had a gaited colt that when I first got him was completely untouched we put him in a pen and put a rope around his neck and put a halter on him. After that the next day I started working on touching him within two weeks he was broke to lead and I could rub him all over with my hands or a brush within a month he could do it without him being nervous at all and I could pick up all four feet. Everyday once he was caught I'd rub him and pet him for about 15-30 minutes. I kept it short at first and as he became more comfortable with me I'd stay longer. Good luck with your baby . You will learn a lot from this experience and there's nothing like bonding and connecting to a young horse who used to be terrified of people.
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